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Thyroid, Pregnenolone, Progesterone, DHEA, etc
Thyroid, DHEA, Pregnenolone, Progesterone, etc
Thyroid and several other issues need advice
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<blockquote data-quote="Vettester Chris" data-source="post: 7209" data-attributes="member: 696"><p>Jim, OK, thanks for clarifying the doctor's protocol with your phlebotomy. IMPO, I think that's a bit extreme for your circumstance, but that's just my .02. Keep in mind, I am a carrier of hemochromatosis. Without donating blood, my levels will be at least 1,400. I can control this relatively easily with donating every 2 months, which will sustain ferritin at/around 200 and HCT around 49, iron serum at 120ish. Even in my case, I would be concerned with going too low on my values "if" I were doing this every month, and again, I'm dealing with a genetic mutation that puts my iron over the top, with or without TRT.</p><p></p><p>As I mentioned earlier, healthy iron & ferritin levels are needed to make T3 effective at the cellular level. It is also a contributing factor with deiodinase activity when T4 is converting downstream to T3, The good news is that your TIBC is adequate, so supplementing a good form of elemental iron would probably be welcome and retained by the body. </p><p></p><p>Frustrating that your doctor won't run antibodies. Does he presume you're immune from any autoimmune disease, like Hashis? On the RT3, I guess he presumes that your T3 is reaching the cells, no need to countercheck this? I can only speculate that he refuses because he does not understand how these numbers work in relation to each other, and also it appears he is not aware of how counterproductive the low iron subject is with thyroid productivity. I could get some things gathered from Dr. Bruce Rind that would enlighten this subject, but I don't know if your doc will freeze up with the idea of it. </p><p></p><p>Yes, NDT is the way to go IMO, but the transport variables like iron, cortisol, D3, B12, etc..., have to be somewhat in check. BTW, speaking of D3 ... Talk to your doctor about a script of Drisdol 50,000iu x 1 week.I couldn't get OTC D3 to get me above 35 for anything. Drisdol got me up in the 70's, and I inject 20,000iu x 2/wk, plus 5,000iu/day of tablets on 3 days that I don't inject. Might be worth something to explore. Back to NDT, Armour tends to be the route to go with many in the US, Erfa is more so in Canada and I even think the UK. </p><p></p><p>Got to run, will keep an eye on this with you ...</p><p>Chris</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Vettester Chris, post: 7209, member: 696"] Jim, OK, thanks for clarifying the doctor's protocol with your phlebotomy. IMPO, I think that's a bit extreme for your circumstance, but that's just my .02. Keep in mind, I am a carrier of hemochromatosis. Without donating blood, my levels will be at least 1,400. I can control this relatively easily with donating every 2 months, which will sustain ferritin at/around 200 and HCT around 49, iron serum at 120ish. Even in my case, I would be concerned with going too low on my values "if" I were doing this every month, and again, I'm dealing with a genetic mutation that puts my iron over the top, with or without TRT. As I mentioned earlier, healthy iron & ferritin levels are needed to make T3 effective at the cellular level. It is also a contributing factor with deiodinase activity when T4 is converting downstream to T3, The good news is that your TIBC is adequate, so supplementing a good form of elemental iron would probably be welcome and retained by the body. Frustrating that your doctor won't run antibodies. Does he presume you're immune from any autoimmune disease, like Hashis? On the RT3, I guess he presumes that your T3 is reaching the cells, no need to countercheck this? I can only speculate that he refuses because he does not understand how these numbers work in relation to each other, and also it appears he is not aware of how counterproductive the low iron subject is with thyroid productivity. I could get some things gathered from Dr. Bruce Rind that would enlighten this subject, but I don't know if your doc will freeze up with the idea of it. Yes, NDT is the way to go IMO, but the transport variables like iron, cortisol, D3, B12, etc..., have to be somewhat in check. BTW, speaking of D3 ... Talk to your doctor about a script of Drisdol 50,000iu x 1 week.I couldn't get OTC D3 to get me above 35 for anything. Drisdol got me up in the 70's, and I inject 20,000iu x 2/wk, plus 5,000iu/day of tablets on 3 days that I don't inject. Might be worth something to explore. Back to NDT, Armour tends to be the route to go with many in the US, Erfa is more so in Canada and I even think the UK. Got to run, will keep an eye on this with you ... Chris [/QUOTE]
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Thyroid, Pregnenolone, Progesterone, DHEA, etc
Thyroid, DHEA, Pregnenolone, Progesterone, etc
Thyroid and several other issues need advice
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