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Testosterone Replacement, Low T, HCG, & Beyond
When Testosterone Is Not Enough
Thinking of trying metformin with TRT
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<blockquote data-quote="dickielongate" data-source="post: 152246" data-attributes="member: 38930"><p>I am lead to believe that other things being equal there will be an average of 6lb over the first year. What I am thinking though is it might be different if you are pushing the diet and exercise but not seeing results from it. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I am glad you asked Vince. When I got labs from my TRT provider, it showed high TSH and borderline low T4:</p><p></p><p>TSH H 5.27 0.27 - 4.20 mIU/L</p><p>Free T4 13.80 12.0 - 22.0 pmol/L</p><p></p><p>Also high E2 and low SHBG:</p><p></p><p>Oestradiol H 194 41 - 159 pmol/L</p><p>SHBG 21 18.3 - 54.1 nmol/L</p><p></p><p>When I asked them what it means, I didn't really get an answer, they just said it could be a number of things. I've had two blood tests since I started treatment and both were apparently contaminated because the T values were 10x over the range. I have an IV test booked with a clinic now, but have been advised to wait until I've had 4 weeks on HCG. I've received the HCG but haven't started the regime yet because I'm not sure it's the right next step.</p><p></p><p>Doing my own reading around my TSH/T4, I came across the T-Nation forums and the thyroid thing is big over there, so I bought a rectal thermometer and did temp testing, and I am definitely not low. No low energy and no coldness either. The opposite in fact, I am usually hot.</p><p></p><p>I did start taking a few drops of lugols every day, but after a month didn't feel any different, so discontinued. So the numbers to point to thyroid, and I am thinking the lower SHBG fits with my metabolic syndrome symptoms.</p><p></p><p>Honestly I don't know how to interpret the thyroid symptoms and numbers. Suggestions welcome.</p><p></p><p>Currently on 100mg Sustanon split into two shots per week, 12.5mg exemestane / aromasin EOD and recently introduced Cialis 5mg / day.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="dickielongate, post: 152246, member: 38930"] I am lead to believe that other things being equal there will be an average of 6lb over the first year. What I am thinking though is it might be different if you are pushing the diet and exercise but not seeing results from it. I am glad you asked Vince. When I got labs from my TRT provider, it showed high TSH and borderline low T4: TSH H 5.27 0.27 - 4.20 mIU/L Free T4 13.80 12.0 - 22.0 pmol/L Also high E2 and low SHBG: Oestradiol H 194 41 - 159 pmol/L SHBG 21 18.3 - 54.1 nmol/L When I asked them what it means, I didn't really get an answer, they just said it could be a number of things. I've had two blood tests since I started treatment and both were apparently contaminated because the T values were 10x over the range. I have an IV test booked with a clinic now, but have been advised to wait until I've had 4 weeks on HCG. I've received the HCG but haven't started the regime yet because I'm not sure it's the right next step. Doing my own reading around my TSH/T4, I came across the T-Nation forums and the thyroid thing is big over there, so I bought a rectal thermometer and did temp testing, and I am definitely not low. No low energy and no coldness either. The opposite in fact, I am usually hot. I did start taking a few drops of lugols every day, but after a month didn't feel any different, so discontinued. So the numbers to point to thyroid, and I am thinking the lower SHBG fits with my metabolic syndrome symptoms. Honestly I don't know how to interpret the thyroid symptoms and numbers. Suggestions welcome. Currently on 100mg Sustanon split into two shots per week, 12.5mg exemestane / aromasin EOD and recently introduced Cialis 5mg / day. [/QUOTE]
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