I hear you, my friend. This is why I bailed in the past. Three weeks were awesome and then got supraphysiologic. Was very uncomfortable. This time around, I have noted mild anxiety, but not nearly as bad as in the past. I think the problem with creams is that it is inexact and I believe the half-life is such that the cumulative dose causes a gradual increase in average levels over time, making people feel bad.
I wonder is your right. Because same thing. The first few days are promising then I start to feel low. So I added another click,gets better for a few days,then bam I feel too high. For me the biggest thing then becomes compliance. I can’t imagine rubbing cream on my balls for the rest of my life. Then worrying if my cloths will contaminate my kids. Or if I scratch my balls and forget about it and touch them. Probably way over blown. But it just causes Unneeded anxiety.
Have you noticed any difference between gonadorelin vs hcg? Sorry if this has been asked before.
With the caveats that N=1, much of the evaluation is subjective, and there are confounding variables: Yes, I did notice differences. Libido, sexual function and cognition all seemed to improve with gonadorelin. Confounding variables include use of selegiline and adjustments to testosterone dose.
Are you doing 2.5mg sublingual selegeline once in the morning? Do you notice it disrupting sleep?
It's 3 mg orally upon waking. It has not disrupted sleep, even though I am otherwise sensitive to stimulants.
I'm curious if you have tested for salivary or blood cortisol. I've always tested the blood one, I don't know if that's right
I’ve done blood, saliva And urine. Urine actually comes back pretty good.
But that's pretty normal for any testosterone administration protocol. The so called honeymoon period is over in 2-3 weeks and then you feel pretty much the same as before TRT.
In my case, I don't think it was the honeymoon --> back to normal phenomenon. I think I was very supraphysiologic in testosterone and all of its metabolites. I felt worse than pre-TRT. I felt good on the ride up, but once levels were high enough, I felt really bad.
The tot guys say you have to ride that shitty period out, to get to the promise land!!!
Yes! Mine takes 3-4 weeks, there's a week and half that's just hell
Have you tried rasagiline? I might want to try that to avoid the amphetamine metabolites.
I'm giving cream another try. Have two syringes(10% concentration) that are out of date a year but IMO not an issue. Doing 3 clicks, though(30 mg?). Emailed my urologist to update him. Was doing 100 mg, IM, test E, E5D. Erectile function only late in the evening. I'd like to see nocturnal erections and morning wood return. Just another experiment.
and how was the salivary cortisol? Low?
