Statin use and TRT

[pmgamer18]

I wanted to get some feedback from any members that are or have taken statins. My cholesterol has been in the 210-240 range since my early 20s. My HDL is normally 55-60 and triglycerides in the 60-80 range. I’m not overweight, don’t smoke, drink occasionally, no family history of heart disease, no diabetes, exercise at least 30 minutes daily. The only medication I take is cypionate 60mg per week. My doctor has really been pushing for the last year for me to get on a Statin to get my LDL down which was 153 last week when I had it checked. I’ve heard nothing but bad things about statins but I’m sure there are people who use them successfully. I’m just not sure in my situation with no risk factors that I even need them. Any thoughts appreciated.

My story us very log so here is the short of it. I had heart bypass surgery in 2009 and it went bad. I got an infection in my chest and was put in a coma for 14 weeks.



After I came too and was going home the Surgeon told me he was putting me on Statin drugs. I told him I never had high Cholesterol in my life and because of the sides I have read about I don't want it.



He went and told my family if I did not take the Statin drugs I would not live out the yr.



My mind not being right from the coma I went on it. From day one I started having pain my in my back and lower body. I told both my family and heart Dr. about this and all they did was keep changing the med.



Until one morning I could not stand up and walk. Today I have Peripheral Neuropathy due to the Statin Drugs.



I can't walk with out a walker and when I do I can't walk for very long. I have a lot of pain in my body. All this from being on Statin Drugs.

Phil

 

[Vince]

My story us very log so here is the short of it. I had heart bypass surgery in 2009 and it went bad. I got an infection in my chest and was put in a coma for 14 weeks.



After I came too and was going home the Surgeon told me he was putting me on Statin drugs. I told him I never had high Cholesterol in my life and because of the sides I have read about I don't want it.



He went and told my family if I did not take the Statin drugs I would not live out the yr.



My mind not being right from the coma I went on it. From day one I started having pain my in my back and lower body. I told both my family and heart Dr. about this and all they did was keep changing the med.



Until one morning I could not stand up and walk. Today I have Peripheral Neuropathy due to the Statin Drugs.



I can't walk with out a walker and when I do I can't walk for very long. I have a lot of pain in my body. All this from being on Statin Drugs.

Phil

Statins can lower a person's coq10 levels. And cause issues like the ones you mention. Have you ever had your levels checked?

 

[Vince]

Peter Langsjoen, MD discusses why we should take Coenzyme Q10

 

[sh1973]

My story us very log so here is the short of it. I had heart bypass surgery in 2009 and it went bad. I got an infection in my chest and was put in a coma for 14 weeks.



After I came too and was going home the Surgeon told me he was putting me on Statin drugs. I told him I never had high Cholesterol in my life and because of the sides I have read about I don't want it.



He went and told my family if I did not take the Statin drugs I would not live out the yr.



My mind not being right from the coma I went on it. From day one I started having pain my in my back and lower body. I told both my family and heart Dr. about this and all they did was keep changing the med.



Until one morning I could not stand up and walk. Today I have Peripheral Neuropathy due to the Statin Drugs.



I can't walk with out a walker and when I do I can't walk for very long. I have a lot of pain in my body. All this from being on Statin Drugs.

Phil

That’s pretty much what everyone I’ve talked to has said regarding the muscle and nerve pain. Even the pharmacists said she’d be hesitant. Seems all these docs do is push meds for big pharma. I’m definitely not going to start them. Too many horror stories.

 

[pmgamer18]

Statins can lower a person's coq10 levels. And cause issues like the ones you mention. Have you ever had your levels checked?

Hear is a list of all my meds and supplements.

PHILIP’S MED’S​

• Aromasin(Exemestane) 25 mgs E3 days.
• Aspirin 81 mg 2x’s/day.
• Alprazolam(Xanax) .5 mg. 3x’s/day.
• Atenolol 25 mg. 2x/day morning and noon for heart beta-blocker.
• Triamterene/HCTZ 37.5/25 mgs. One pill every M,W,F,S&S 5 pills/ week.
• Lasix(Furosemide) 40 mgs Tue and Thur 2 pills/ week.
• Cialis 5 mgs / day for BP and BPH.
• Testosterone Cypionate 200mgs/ml. at .3 1/2 ml. or 70 mgs shot every 3 days subQ.
• Pregnyl Mdv/ inj 10 ml. HCG shot 250 IU’s E3D the day before Testosterone shot.
• Celecoxib 200 mgs. 2x/day morning and dinner.
• Hydrocortisone (Cortef) 30 mgs. total 10 mgs morning at 3am, 5mgs at 9am, 5 mgs at 1pm, 5 mgs at 6pm and 5mgs at bedtime six pills / day total.
• Florinef .1 mgs. 1x’s/day with ½ tsp. of Sea Salt added to water 27oz canteen 1x’s/day drink at least 3 canteens / day.
• Cytomel 5mcgs 4x’s /day.
• Concerta 18 mgs 1x’s /day.
• Synthroid generic 150 mcgs./day.
• Potassium Chloride 20 mgs Mon,Wed and Fri 3 pills / week.
• Ferrous Fumarate Iron pills 324 mgs. One pill every M,W&F 3 pills/ week.
• Thera-Gesic Analgesic pain cream morning and dinner for shoulder and back.
• GenTeal® Mild To Moderate Dry Eye Relief Lubricant Eye Drops 2x's/ day.
• Acetaminophen Arthrits Pain Reliever 650 mgs / cap doing 2 caps 3x's/day.
• Entresto 2x’s/day.
• Hemp seed oil caps 1x’s/day.
  
  
  
  

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Supplements​

• Twinlab, L-Arginine & L-Ornithine, 100 Capsules 1/day at bedtime
• NOW brand ZMA 800mgs 3 at bedtime.
• Copper 2mgs 1 at noon.
• Iodoral Iodine 1/4 tab / day 3 mgs.
• Solary Super Bio C 2 x’s/day 1000 mgs. Total I don’t take this is my B vit.’s.
• Biotics Research Corp. Bio-D Mulsion Forte D3, 2,000 IU, 1 fl oz 10 drops / day morning.
• Now Foods, Melatonin, 3 mg, 60 Capsules
• The Real Food Trading Company, Himalayan Pink Sea Salt ½ tsp. / day.
• NAC N-Acetyl Cysteine, Selenium, Molybdenum - 600 mg. 3x’s / day.
• Coenzyme B Complex 2x’s /day.
  The following supplements are for the damage to my muscles from Statin Drugs.
• BioCitrate Selenium - 200 mcg 1x’s / day morning.
• Krill Oil capliques 500 mgs. 2 with food morning mercola.com
• Ubiquinol Capliques Featuring Kaneka's Qh (200mgs) 3x’s/day mercola.com.
• Lecithin From Sunflower NOW brand 1200 mgs 1x’s/day.
• Acetyl-L Carnitine 500 mg 3x’s/day.
• Alpha Lipoic Acid 250 mg/day.
• Life Extension, Super-Absorbable Tocotrienols, 60 Softgels One at dinner.
• Vitamin K2 Mercoloa.com one / day.
• Life Extension, Neuro-Mag, Magnesium L-Threonate 1 cap 3x's/day.
• Now Foods, D-Mannose, 500 mg 3 pills / day when needed for bladder infections.
• Thorne Research, Methyl-Guard Plus 3x’s / day.
• Life Extension, Mega Benfotiamine, 250 mg, 2x's / day.
• Dr. Mercola Complete Probiotics 1 in the morning.
• Dr. Mercola Whole-Food Multivitamin Plus. 4/day.
• Thorne Research, Magnesium Citramate 1x/day.

 

[sh1973]

Man that’s a lot of meds and supplements. I don’t know how you even have time to take all of that.

 

[pmgamer18]

Man that’s a lot of meds and supplements. I don’t know how you even have time to take all of that.

Yes it is a lot most of them I was told to take by my Dr's.
I was just told about trying Turmeric hope this works.
Phil

Man that’s a lot of meds and supplements. I don’t know how you even have time to take all of that.

 

[sh1973]

So you’ve discontinued the statins?

 

[pmgamer18]

So you’ve discontinued the statins?

Yes Dr.'s took me off all of them when one morning I could not get out of bed. It was after that I was put on CoQ10 and other supplements

So you’ve discontinued the statins?

 

[sh1973]

Sounds like a smart move for sure

 

[Guided_by_Voices]

Something I have noticed across many threads on many forums regarding statins is that for many people the side effects never resolve once they stop the statin. They usually improve somewhat, but the damage often seems to be permanent. To me, the risk of this, even if small, combined with the rounding-error level of benefit and the better alternatives, makes statins a total non-starter. Additionally the wide array of side-effects which are often not easy to associate with the statin, and the time they may take to appear, which could be years, gives these a totally unacceptable risk profile. Even if someone wanted to do a valid study to assess the risks (which they don't and has never been done) it would be a very difficult study to do correctly.

 

[pmgamer18]

Something I have noticed across many threads on many forums regarding statins is that for many people the side effects never resolve once they stop the statin. They usually improve somewhat, but the damage often seems to be permanent. To me, the risk of this, even if small, combined with the rounding-error level of benefit and the better alternatives, makes statins a total non-starter. Additionally the wide array of side-effects which are often not easy to associate with the statin, and the time they may take to appear, which could be years, gives these a totally unacceptable risk profile. Even if someone wanted to do a valid study to assess the risks (which they don't and has never been done) it would be a very difficult study to do correctly.

I have been off them over 19 yrs. and I am no better still going down hill. It's called Peripheral Neuropathy from Statin use.



I got a lot of info and help Dr. Graveline and his web site at

https://spacedoc.com/articles/peripheral-neuropathy-statins



God bless him he died some yrs. ago.

 

[sh1973]

I wanted to bring this post back to see if there’s any members that have had positive experiences with low dose statins such as 10mg daily. I’ve tried very hard over the last few months to bring my ldl down naturally to no avail. My total is 270, HDL 61, LDL 190 and triglycerides 84. I don’t feel comfortable with my ldl being at this level but I have no other health issues and the only medication I take is testosterone. Never smoked and drink occasionally and never had high blood pressure. My doctor thinks 10mg will be all I need in my case. Any thoughts appreciated.

 

[Vince]

This is a very controversial thread. I'm just saying what I do I'm not telling anyone else what to do. Ezetimibe 10 mg, I know many people who use the statin with good success with lowering their LDL cholesterol. I also use 10 mg of rosuvastatin. This is my decision, just like trt is.

 

[sh1973]

Vince have you had good luck with your treatment if you don’t mind me asking?

 

[Nelson Vergel]

I did search for statins and nothing popped up

Lots and lots on statins on ExcelMale.com