Restoring testicle size

[rayrock1]

Thank you for mentioning the 2 weeks Vince. My doctor never mentioned anything except to see him in 2 months. Vergel said 1 month in his HCG video so I took it from there. I learn more from this website than seeing the Dr. Thanking everyone for contributing.

 

[Alessandro27]

Anyone here try Enclomiphene to restore testicle size?

I've never read that serms can restore size or reverse testicular atrophy... even though they raise your own lh and fsh levels... Only hcg or hmg can do this. Someone correct me if I am wrong.

 

[Cataceous]

I've never read that serms can restore size or reverse testicular atrophy... even though they raise your own lh and fsh levels... Only hcg or hmg can do this. Someone correct me if I am wrong.

In men on TRT, a SERM by itself is usually insufficient to stimulate the HPTA into producing LH and FSH. However, a SERM used in conjunction with gonadorelin does work, potentially better than hCG.

 

[txmx]

I agree... sort of spooky, getting stuff from a online chemical supplier, "Not for human consumption"... but sounds very promising... as soon as I get past my TRT related DVT (blood clot) I will try it... not much info out there...

Defy Medical has legitimately sourced enclomiphene from Tailor Made Compounding and possibly soon from Empower Pharmacy.

 

[Seth]

I've started 500 iu of HCG every other day to increase testicle size. I would like to ass in FSH, once it is back in stock. What dose would you suggest I use?

 

[Seth]

Let me clarify: the aching coincides with when the testicles are potentially growing or shrinking. Steady state is when neither is occurring. This is doubtless an oversimplification, as there's more to the process than just growing or shrinking. The episodes have occurred after starting TRT, after starting hCG, after stopping hCG and after starting GnRH while stopping hCG. This latter appeared to be a growth episode, with endogenous LH and FSH trumping the previous hCG use.

Makes sense that there would be some testicle pain during growth. Any thoughts on HCG and Clomid together to stimulate testicle growth?

 

[ghce]

When I first used Clomid as a mono therapy after about 2 1/2 years of TRT, sperm count had been low and teste size was a little reduced. After about 2 weeks I noted the previously mentioned testicle pain/ discomfort and by about 4 weeks size was back up to full again and a few months later sperm count was well into upper normal range.

My second use of Clomid a couple of years later after full shutdown due to TRT, teste size was woefully small so I resumed the mono clomid protocol which after about a month had increased testicular volume to almost normal size.

 

[Cataceous]

Makes sense that there would be some testicle pain during growth. Any thoughts on HCG and Clomid together to stimulate testicle growth?

The combination may be viable. This work says that adding Clomid does help with FSH production. FSH stimulates the Sertoli cells, which account for more of the testicular volume than the Leydig cells.

HCG therapy was supplemented with clomiphene citrate, tamoxifen, anastrozole, or recombinant FSH (or a combination) according to physician preference and clinical situation. The supplemental therapies were added to raise native FSH levels, as HCG does not raise FSH levels and has no activity on FSH receptors​

 

[evansjamesk]

What makes them full, blood flow?
Any compounds/vitamins the body uses to make them bigger?

This is purely anecdotal, but I read that damiana increases testicle size. Without my wife's knowledge, I started taking it, and about three weeks later as she was blessing me with her oral artistry, she commented "your balls are getting bigger." So I believe that it MAY help. Don't ask what brand it was, I don't recall. It was years ago.

Another anecdote: I began full-package pumping several years ago. That means my beans and frank all get vacuum pumped inside a large chamber. Very low vacuum pressure for at least a half-hour at a time. I mean, very VERY low pressure. It gets the boys nice and plump for a few days. My right nut stays a little larger all the time, but my left one shrinks back down. For those of you who want to reply "You pump your nuts? Are you crazy?" No, I'm not crazy. It's not as uncommon as you'd think, and again, the secret is just like smoking a Boston Butt: low and slow. CAVEAT: yes, you can cause serious injury if you pump with too much pressure, but I've been doing it literally for years now with no injury. Occasionally one will feel a little sore afterwards, but it never lasts. You can make your own full-package pump inexpensively. Search for STJ full package pump.

 

[Seth]

When I first used Clomid as a mono therapy after about 2 1/2 years of TRT, sperm count had been low and teste size was a little reduced. After about 2 weeks I noted the previously mentioned testicle pain/ discomfort and by about 4 weeks size was back up to full again and a few months later sperm count was well into upper normal range.

My second use of Clomid a couple of years later after full shutdown due to TRT, teste size was woefully small so I resumed the mono clomid protocol which after about a month had increased testicular volume to almost normal size.

What was your clomid dosage?

 

[Seth]

The combination may be viable. This work says that adding Clomid does help with FSH production. FSH stimulates the Sertoli cells, which account for more of the testicular volume than the Leydig cells.

HCG therapy was supplemented with clomiphene citrate, tamoxifen, anastrozole, or recombinant FSH (or a combination) according to physician preference and clinical situation. The supplemental therapies were added to raise native FSH levels, as HCG does not raise FSH levels and has no activity on FSH receptors​

Any thoughts on what clomid dosage I should use?

 

[Cataceous]

Any thoughts on what clomid dosage I should use?

Probably 12.5 mg EOD or daily for starters, and no more than 25 mg per day. As suggested earlier, enclomiphene is preferred if you can get it.

 

[Seth]

Probably 12.5 mg EOD or daily for starters, and no more than 25 mg per day. As suggested earlier, enclomiphene is preferred if you can get it.

Thanks! Sorry, but I don't know what you mean by EOD.

 

[Cataceous]

Thanks! Sorry, but I don't know what you mean by EOD.

Every other day.

 

[ghce]

I used 12.5 eod but as Cat suggest no more than 25mg per day as a max figure but start low.

 

[Seth]

Every other day.

Every other day.

Thanks!

 

[Seth]

This article talks about Fish Oil helping increase testicle size and fertility. I've read that probiotics can help with this too. Your thoughts?

Fish oil can 'boost sperm count and increase testicle size'

Scientists at the University of Southern Denmark tested the sperm of more than 1,600 men going through national service fitness testing and found those taking omega-3 ejaculated more sperm.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[slicktop]

What makes them full, blood flow?
Any compounds/vitamins the body uses to make them bigger?

I didn't see that you ever got a direct answer to your question. Without getting into the whole hormone axis, if you think of hormones as keys and hormone receptors as locks, you can think of HCG as a "master key" that opens up several locks. When you take testosterone, your body sees how much you have in your blood stream and decides "ok, that's enough, let's turn the factory off for now" and it does so by stopping the production of other hormones that are usually the "on switch"...so your boys basically stop working. HCG can open the locks that turns them back on.

 

[madman]

I didn't see that you ever got a direct answer to your question. Without getting into the whole hormone axis, if you think of hormones as keys and hormone receptors as locks, you can think of HCG as a "master key" that opens up several locks. When you take testosterone, your body sees how much you have in your blood stream and decides "ok, that's enough, let's turn the factory off for now" and it does so by stopping the production of other hormones that are usually the "on switch"...so your boys basically stop working. HCG can open the locks that turns them back on.

He did back in April but still persists to ask the same question?

When testicle size increases, what happens?

We know that HCG or Clomid can increase testicle size. But exactly how does a testicle increase in size once extra LH or HCG enter the cells? Does it stop apoptosis, or more cells uptake glucose or water, etc?

www.excelmale.com

 

[Vvs1]

I didn't see that you ever got a direct answer to your question. Without getting into the whole hormone axis, if you think of hormones as keys and hormone receptors as locks, you can think of HCG as a "master key" that opens up several locks. When you take testosterone, your body sees how much you have in your blood stream and decides "ok, that's enough, let's turn the factory off for now" and it does so by stopping the production of other hormones that are usually the "on switch"...so your boys basically stop working. HCG can open the locks that turns them back on.

I’m mostly interested in compounds, vitamins, minerals, fats, that would be needed for Testes to grow, assuming LH, FSH, and HCG is adequate.