Question on T Cream Dosage

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I am currently on Test Cream (Atrevis Base) 100 mg/ml applying 1 ml per day in AM. Lab results are as follows:

Total T - 581 ng/dl (range 264 - 916)
Free T - 21.4 pg/ml (range 6.6 - 18.1)
DHT 80 ng/dl (range 30 - 85)
sensitive E2 26.7 pg/ml (range 8 - 35)

I've been on the cream since January, prior to which I was on Test Cyp daily subQ injections of 16 mgs per day. Lab results on injectables as follows:

Total T - 984
Free T - 30.2
DHT - 36
Sensitive E2 - 49

On T injections I felt much more energetic but lower libido. I'd like to stay on the cream if I can get my T higher to get my energy back. Any thoughts on a protocol to increase the T without driving DHT or E2 too high?

 

[goolapsh]

I am currently on Test Cream (Atrevis Base) 100 mg/ml applying 1 ml per day in AM. Lab results are as follows:

Total T - 581 ng/dl (range 264 - 916)
Free T - 21.4 pg/ml (range 6.6 - 18.1)
DHT 80 ng/dl (range 30 - 85)
sensitive E2 26.7 pg/ml (range 8 - 35)

I've been on the cream since January, prior to which I was on Test Cyp daily subQ injections of 16 mgs per day. Lab results on injectables as follows:

Total T - 984
Free T - 30.2
DHT - 36
Sensitive E2 - 49

On T injections I felt much more energetic but lower libido. I'd like to stay on the cream if I can get my T higher to get my energy back. Any thoughts on a protocol to increase the T without driving DHT or E2 too high?

where are you applying the gel and how long after application are you taking the test

 

[Cataceous]

Use a hybrid protocol, with injections to provide a base level of testosterone, and smaller amounts of the transdermal testosterone to support DHT and provide some diurnal variation.

 

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I tried hybrid approach however DHT levels dropped to low 60's. Felt better libido when in 80's. When back to 100% cream and focused on thoroughly rubbing in the cream where it almost felt like i was rubbing dry skin. Applying to my inner forearms. Total T now in 800's with DHT in the mid 80's. Feel great! I appreciate the input.

 

[Abuser200]

I tried hybrid approach however DHT levels dropped to low 60's. Felt better libido when in 80's. When back to 100% cream and focused on thoroughly rubbing in the cream where it almost felt like i was rubbing dry skin. Applying to my inner forearms. Total T now in 800's with DHT in the mid 80's. Feel great! I appreciate the input.

How many mg do you rub on your forearms?
Hows your free t and e2 look like now?

 

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100 mgs to the inner forearm. Free T 28 and e2 29

 

[goolapsh]

100 mgs to the inner forearm. Free T 28 and e2 29

How long after application do you test?

 

[goolapsh]

100 mgs to the inner forearm. Free T 28 and e2 29

How long after application do you twst

How long after application do you test? Why did you switch from scrotal application to forearms?

 

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I test about 3 hours after application. I switched from scrotal to forearm because I preferred to be in ranges that are in the norm for healthy males. DHT at 300 and Total T > 1500 achieved by scrotal application are beyond the bell curve. Sure, I could hump a log, but that in itself is outside the norm.

 

[sokaiya]

i feel amazing on 40mg injection EOD (either cypionate, enanthate or sustain) then i do the cream compounded in Pentravan "topi click" 50mg twice per day. Feel Awesome.

 

[M.J]

I am currently on Test Cream (Atrevis Base) 100 mg/ml applying 1 ml per day in AM. Lab results are as follows:

Total T - 581 ng/dl (range 264 - 916)
Free T - 21.4 pg/ml (range 6.6 - 18.1)
DHT 80 ng/dl (range 30 - 85)
sensitive E2 26.7 pg/ml (range 8 - 35)

I've been on the cream since January, prior to which I was on Test Cyp daily subQ injections of 16 mgs per day. Lab results on injectables as follows:

Total T - 984
Free T - 30.2
DHT - 36
Sensitive E2 - 49

On T injections I felt much more energetic but lower libido. I'd like to stay on the cream if I can get my T higher to get my energy back. Any thoughts on a protocol to increase the T without driving DHT or E2 too high?

How is Libido ? Morning wood ?

 

[AdamYoung]

I am trying to figure out my dosage. I am currently on my lowest dosage. Havent done blood work. I am low shbg guy. Currently on 200iu HCG and 10mg Test EOD. Planning to use cream with injection. What do you guys suggest?
I think the purpose of combination is to decrease estrogen while increasing DHT n Test right? So, the only draw back of using cream is the dht will get lower and other than that no issues right?
FYI: when i used 10mg test ED, My test was high so trying to reduce it to normal levels.

 

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both are excellent!

 

[Bluejays]

Hey guys.. I've been on 60mg of cream about 25 days or so. Not applying on the scrotum. How soon do you think I could get bloodwork, in terms of reaching stability, to consider a higher dose? I'm thinking 100mg split in an am/pm next. I also want to try and stay in a normal range.

 

[Tman]

For creams, you are fine to check your bloods. Probably more important, how are you feeling? Don't be in a rush to up your doses...more is not better for some people. The good thing with creams, changes are felt much faster than shots.

 

[[email protected]]

when using creams, do not apply to the inner arm of the side which will have blood drawn. Residual testosterone in the skin in the puncture site will give a false high reading of testosterone. I know this from experience. I don't apply any cream to the inner arm being used for the blood draw for 2 days prior to testing.

 

[Bluejays]

I'm not scheduled for a follow up for 2 more months... starting today I'm going to do 40mg morning and night. Then see what the bloodwork looks like in 2 months. It's probably still a fairly low non-scrotal dose.

 

[SSHSSA74]

both are excellent!

do you apply once or twice per day?

 

[SSHSSA74]

I am currently on Test Cream (Atrevis Base) 100 mg/ml applying 1 ml per day in AM. Lab results are as follows:

Total T - 581 ng/dl (range 264 - 916)
Free T - 21.4 pg/ml (range 6.6 - 18.1)
DHT 80 ng/dl (range 30 - 85)
sensitive E2 26.7 pg/ml (range 8 - 35)

I've been on the cream since January, prior to which I was on Test Cyp daily subQ injections of 16 mgs per day. Lab results on injectables as follows:

Total T - 984
Free T - 30.2
DHT - 36
Sensitive E2 - 49

On T injections I felt much more energetic but lower libido. I'd like to stay on the cream if I can get my T higher to get my energy back. Any thoughts on a protocol to increase the T without driving DHT or E2 too high?

Sorry, just saw once per day..thanks

 

[SSHSSA74]

100 mgs to the inner forearm. Free T 28 and e2 29

what is your shbg?