Do you know what your levels were before TRT?
Poor erection quality
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This is simply for me, dont mean anyone else would see same results. That said it's kind of a mixed bag. It fluctuates from day to day/week to week. In the gym, I've seen marginal increases in 1) strength (I'm a powerlifter so see this more) 2) recovery is little bit better (both between sets and training session to training session).
However, with that I've found it harder to stay consistent with training. Lot more dont feel like it and either drag myself to gym or end up skipping. Lack of drive in general (opposite of what I thought trt was supposed to do. Had more drive but slower adaptation pre-trt. Might have potential for more now but if cant stay consistent dont get to enjoy.
It's hard to explain but this is basically where things are at. I feel better at work too, but have more ups and downs compared to pre trt.
Ok should say, main reason I went to go get checked was the severe crashes I was experiencing, helped sister in-law move and for 3 days felt exhausted afterwards for example (I was in good shape at the time, did cardio and trained 3 times a week) Minor erection issues, mainly extreme fatigue. After gym or physically demanding task at work etc
6-17-17 at universal mens clinic before being put on trt
Tt 357 (Ref Range:348-1197 ng/d)
LH 2.8 (Ref Range:1.7-8.6 mIU/mL)
Estradiol 14.1
(Ref Range:7.6-42.6 pg/mL
Roche ECLIA methodology)
shbg 44.7 (Ref Range:16.5-55.9 nmol/L)
1-4-2017 (testing via discounted labs) wanted to look seen the results thought I was normal later (6-17) went to universal mens clinic because issues continued)
tt 448.6 (ref 348.0-1197.0 ng/dl)
ft 9.5 (Ref Range:8.7-25.1 pg/mL)
estradiol sensitive 14.9 (Ref Range:8.0-35.0 pg/mL)
also checked thyroid, again wanted to know just in case.
T4,Free(Direct)
1.14 NORMAL (Ref Range:0.82-1.77 ng/dL)
TSH
1.800 NORMAL (Ref Range:0.450-4.500 uIU/mL)
Triiodothyronine,Free,Serum
3.8 NORMAL (Ref Range:2.0-4.4 pg/mL)
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I'd like to update my situation for anyone reading this in the future. After getting my lab results with high E, my doc said to switch to subQ 3x a week. I went straight to subQ every day. I also got impatient and took .5mg anastrozole, then .25 two days later and .25 two days after that. By the end of that week, PDE5i meds worked again. I'm now going to just ride out this daily subQ protocol with no AI and wait for my next round of blood work in a month. I'll report back if my high E symptoms return. This was a nervous time for me so I hope this can help someone stay calm in the future.
The people on the Facebook groups won't accept that 86 is too high for me. They tell me it just has to be something else.
Lol yeah they are absolutely retarded in that group, Its a fucking cult im yelling ya and their "leader" danny bossa is a god damn clown and a joke.
I predict that in the next year they will all be off that bandwagon-
No it’s not - 86 is too high unless your a teenage girl
Yes, some of them come to the t-nation forum now, they managed to brainwash tons of people there that "e2 is never a concern" and blablabla.
Been doing 200 mg of test/cyp w/aromatase inhibitor, hcg since May of 2019, at first lots of extra energy, required little sleep, noticable libido increase, not excessive. Now, i can get pretty horny throughout the day but only 85-95% erection in mornings, which goes away right after morning pee. I'm really not trying to be any hornier, but i miss the morning wood, any recommendations?
Whats your ai dose? How much HCG are you doing?
SilverSurfer
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Not sure of your age, but do you take low dose (1mg to 5 mg) Cialis daily? That helps a lot of us here.
HCG comes in iu’s. Is it 100iu’s per injection, per week?
So I'm basically having the exact same issues as the OP. 100mg subq, (50mg/2xWk). E2 is 30.6 in a range of 8-35. I've tried adding .5 adex/per wk but I did that along with 750 HCG as well so I may have just cancelled out the e2 lowering effects of adex with the added HCG. Perhaps I should just trying adex alone.
I was tested pre trt and e2 was high normal as well. Erections weren't an issue pre trt.
Also, whats a good amount of time to wait between making adjustments to adex dosing?
I was tested pre trt and e2 was high normal as well. Erections weren't an issue pre trt.
Also, whats a good amount of time to wait between making adjustments to adex dosing?
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slicktop
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Adex tolerance seems to vary significantly from person to person. There's guys that crash on .125mg; I've take 1mg pills when I had high E2 symptoms in the past, and was fine. I'd suggest microdosing in your case- smaller, more frequent may help you. If you're taking .5mg once a week, it's basically gone by the time you take the next dose so you're riding the roller coaster. I generally read that anaztrozole has a half life of 40-50 hours, so it can be a challenge for some men to get it right.
Morning erections that go away rapidly after that first urination are actually pseudoerections.
It’s the HCG- drop it aand use .25 arimidex at injection time. HCG can cause a huge bump in Estrogen which will give you ED. It will take a few days but it will come back!
I will try that but but I was having the issue before trying HCG again. Basically was just on 100 test and nothing else. Let's see how I do on 100 test and .5 adex split between 2 doses a week.
How long after changing AI protocol might one expect to notice a difference?
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