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My notes on Empower nasal T gel experiment
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<blockquote data-quote="Fortunate" data-source="post: 224295" data-attributes="member: 42264"><p>This is a really great write up of your experience.</p><p></p><p>As above, I have had good results with Natesto, with some caveats. For example, when I use Natesto, I apply it three times a day, instead of two, so results may not be directly comparable.</p><p></p><p>Also, I would tend to agree with [USER=38668]@Willyt[/USER]'s "underwhelming" feeling. I have found that Natesto has been pretty reliable for mood, but in general, I started to get the sense that I am under treated. It took me a while to realize this because I had been on it for a long time. I am also guilty of flipping around a lot, trying to find an alternative to Natesto that I tolerate, which can make drawing conclusions hard. That said, there have been a number of times when I experienced what I would consider true symptom relief with other forms of TRT, which would make me realize I was likely missing out on a full benefit on Natesto (mostly energy and alertness).</p><p></p><p>I could easily argue that Natesto is "good enough" and justify using it long term. They say the enemy of good is better, and I could convince myself that I am trying to get "better" results than something that is "good". However, I am pretty convinced that there is a more effective way to address more low T symptoms than Natesto for me. I have been exploring this for the last few months, and I have not reached a definitive conclusion. If I ultimately determined that Natesto offered the most ideal benefit to side effect ratio compared with everything else, I would be fine going back on it long term.</p><p></p><p>I found the nasal application very quick and easy. It can be more discreet than it would seem. It's easy to carry around the applicator, and you can even have some extra ones laying around certain places, in case you forget to bring it with you (in the office, etc). However, it did feel like over time, gunk could build up and blowing your nose was not enough to clear it out. I sometimes feel like the build up could affect absorption. I also felt like the application technique was hard to replicate every time, which could affect how much medication I was getting. There is no question that injections, even if they are daily, are more convenient.</p><p></p><p>I did a supposed peak level about an hour after application, and my levels were nowhere near what has been published. But, it's one data point, and given how quickly Natesto acts, it's very possible that checking levels 30 minutes earlier or later would have affected results.</p><p></p><p>I strongly encourage anyone starting on TRT to consider Natesto because of the safety profile and because it may help preserve natural production. Once you go down other roads, it can be hard to put the toothpaste back in the tube. If Natesto does not relieve symptoms, you can always step on the gas from there.</p><p></p><p>My two cents to add to [USER=38668]@Willyt[/USER]'s really great summary.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Fortunate, post: 224295, member: 42264"] This is a really great write up of your experience. As above, I have had good results with Natesto, with some caveats. For example, when I use Natesto, I apply it three times a day, instead of two, so results may not be directly comparable. Also, I would tend to agree with [USER=38668]@Willyt[/USER]'s "underwhelming" feeling. I have found that Natesto has been pretty reliable for mood, but in general, I started to get the sense that I am under treated. It took me a while to realize this because I had been on it for a long time. I am also guilty of flipping around a lot, trying to find an alternative to Natesto that I tolerate, which can make drawing conclusions hard. That said, there have been a number of times when I experienced what I would consider true symptom relief with other forms of TRT, which would make me realize I was likely missing out on a full benefit on Natesto (mostly energy and alertness). I could easily argue that Natesto is "good enough" and justify using it long term. They say the enemy of good is better, and I could convince myself that I am trying to get "better" results than something that is "good". However, I am pretty convinced that there is a more effective way to address more low T symptoms than Natesto for me. I have been exploring this for the last few months, and I have not reached a definitive conclusion. If I ultimately determined that Natesto offered the most ideal benefit to side effect ratio compared with everything else, I would be fine going back on it long term. I found the nasal application very quick and easy. It can be more discreet than it would seem. It's easy to carry around the applicator, and you can even have some extra ones laying around certain places, in case you forget to bring it with you (in the office, etc). However, it did feel like over time, gunk could build up and blowing your nose was not enough to clear it out. I sometimes feel like the build up could affect absorption. I also felt like the application technique was hard to replicate every time, which could affect how much medication I was getting. There is no question that injections, even if they are daily, are more convenient. I did a supposed peak level about an hour after application, and my levels were nowhere near what has been published. But, it's one data point, and given how quickly Natesto acts, it's very possible that checking levels 30 minutes earlier or later would have affected results. I strongly encourage anyone starting on TRT to consider Natesto because of the safety profile and because it may help preserve natural production. Once you go down other roads, it can be hard to put the toothpaste back in the tube. If Natesto does not relieve symptoms, you can always step on the gas from there. My two cents to add to [USER=38668]@Willyt[/USER]'s really great summary. [/QUOTE]
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