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Hourly Intraday testosterone profiles in young eugonadal (healthy functional) men (1973-1983)
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<blockquote data-quote="MIP1950" data-source="post: 223669" data-attributes="member: 42988"><p>I looked through all that you posted and for me, graphs and charts can be overwhelming. I understand the point to look back at androgen levels 40 to 50 years ago for a comparison. However, for me, what I think is being overlooked, is that when we were younger or just young, (I'm 72), our bodies were efficiently synthesizing pregnenolone, progesterone, DHEA, a wide variety of neuropeptides, growth hormone, as well as testosterone, DHT and estradiol. Our thyroid, adrenals, pituitary and hypothalamus were optimally functioning. </p><p></p><p>None of us have a snapshot of our neuroendocrine system when we were 18 or 25 or 35. We just functioned. We got erections, we had restorative sleep, we had energy. We just lived and went about with our lives. For myself, testosterone hasn't brought any significant improvements. I know, too, from my reading, that for some men, it can take years; 2 to 5 years on injections to reverse metabolic syndrome, to bring about weight loss, to improve sleep and to restore erectile function. Yes, those men are likely extreme and rare cases. </p><p></p><p>I do wish that testosterone, alone, would have brought about significant improvements in all aspects of my health, but I haven't seen it. It's frustrating and it vexes my urologist who has decades of experience in TRT/HRT. Not throwing in the towel. Just coming at this from a different perspective, utilizing pregnenolone and DHEA.</p><p></p><h3>Oral pregnenolone as hormone replacement therapy (HRT) in humans</h3> <ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Thread starter [USER=570]haidut[/USER] </li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Start date <a href="https://raypeatforum.com/community/threads/oral-pregnenolone-as-hormone-replacement-therapy-hrt-in-humans.37916/" target="_blank">Dec 22, 2020</a> </li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><a href="https://raypeatforum.com/community/threads/oral-pregnenolone-as-hormone-replacement-therapy-hrt-in-humans.37916/tags" target="_blank">Tags</a> <a href="https://raypeatforum.com/community/tags/growth-hormone/" target="_blank">growth hormone</a> <a href="https://raypeatforum.com/community/tags/hgh/" target="_blank">hgh</a> <a href="https://raypeatforum.com/community/tags/hrt/" target="_blank">hrt</a> <a href="https://raypeatforum.com/community/tags/hypogonadism/" target="_blank">hypogonadism</a> <a href="https://raypeatforum.com/community/tags/oral/" target="_blank">oral</a> <a href="https://raypeatforum.com/community/tags/p5/" target="_blank">p5</a> <a href="https://raypeatforum.com/community/tags/pregnenolone/" target="_blank">pregnenolone</a> <a href="https://raypeatforum.com/community/tags/steroidopenia/" target="_blank">steroidopenia</a></li> </ul></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="MIP1950, post: 223669, member: 42988"] I looked through all that you posted and for me, graphs and charts can be overwhelming. I understand the point to look back at androgen levels 40 to 50 years ago for a comparison. However, for me, what I think is being overlooked, is that when we were younger or just young, (I'm 72), our bodies were efficiently synthesizing pregnenolone, progesterone, DHEA, a wide variety of neuropeptides, growth hormone, as well as testosterone, DHT and estradiol. Our thyroid, adrenals, pituitary and hypothalamus were optimally functioning. None of us have a snapshot of our neuroendocrine system when we were 18 or 25 or 35. We just functioned. We got erections, we had restorative sleep, we had energy. We just lived and went about with our lives. For myself, testosterone hasn't brought any significant improvements. I know, too, from my reading, that for some men, it can take years; 2 to 5 years on injections to reverse metabolic syndrome, to bring about weight loss, to improve sleep and to restore erectile function. Yes, those men are likely extreme and rare cases. I do wish that testosterone, alone, would have brought about significant improvements in all aspects of my health, but I haven't seen it. It's frustrating and it vexes my urologist who has decades of experience in TRT/HRT. Not throwing in the towel. Just coming at this from a different perspective, utilizing pregnenolone and DHEA. [HEADING=2]Oral pregnenolone as hormone replacement therapy (HRT) in humans[/HEADING] [LIST] [*]Thread starter [USER=570]haidut[/USER] [*]Start date [URL='https://raypeatforum.com/community/threads/oral-pregnenolone-as-hormone-replacement-therapy-hrt-in-humans.37916/']Dec 22, 2020[/URL] [*][URL='https://raypeatforum.com/community/threads/oral-pregnenolone-as-hormone-replacement-therapy-hrt-in-humans.37916/tags']Tags[/URL] [URL='https://raypeatforum.com/community/tags/growth-hormone/']growth hormone[/URL] [URL='https://raypeatforum.com/community/tags/hgh/']hgh[/URL] [URL='https://raypeatforum.com/community/tags/hrt/']hrt[/URL] [URL='https://raypeatforum.com/community/tags/hypogonadism/']hypogonadism[/URL] [URL='https://raypeatforum.com/community/tags/oral/']oral[/URL] [URL='https://raypeatforum.com/community/tags/p5/']p5[/URL] [URL='https://raypeatforum.com/community/tags/pregnenolone/']pregnenolone[/URL] [URL='https://raypeatforum.com/community/tags/steroidopenia/']steroidopenia[/URL] [/LIST] [/QUOTE]
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