High levels of two hormones in the blood raise prostate cancer risk

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madman

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Men with higher levels of ‘free’ testosterone and a growth hormone in their blood are more likely to be diagnosed with prostate cancer, according to research presented at the 2019 NCRI Cancer Conference.


Press release: High levels of two hormones in the blood raise prostate cancer risk - The National Cancer Research Institute






Other factors such as older age, ethnicity and a family history of the disease are already known to increase a man’s risk of developing prostate cancer.

However, the new study of more than 200,000 men is one of the first to show strong evidence of two factors that could possibly be modified to reduce prostate cancer risk.

The research was led by Dr Ruth Travis, an Associate Professor, and Ellie Watts, a Research Fellow, both based at the University of Oxford, UK. Dr Travis said: “Prostate cancer is the second most commonly diagnosed cancer in men worldwide after lung cancer and a leading cause of cancer death. But there is no evidence-based advice that we can give to men to reduce their risk.

“We were interested in studying the levels of two hormones circulating in the blood because previous research suggests they could be linked with prostate cancer and because these are factors that could potentially be altered in an attempt to reduce prostate cancer risk.”

The researchers studied 200,452 men who are part of the UK Biobank project. All were free of cancer when they joined the study and were not taking any hormone therapy.

The men gave blood samples that were tested for their levels of testosterone and a growth hormone called insulin-like growth factor-I (IGF-I). The researchers calculated levels of free testosterone – testosterone that is circulating in the blood and not bound to any other molecule and can therefore have an effect in the body. A subset of 9,000 of men gave a second blood sample at a later date, to help the researchers account for natural fluctuations in hormone levels.

The men were followed for an average of six to seven years to see if they went on to develop prostate cancer. Within the group, there were 5,412 cases and 296 deaths from the disease.

The researchers found that men with higher concentrations of the two hormones in their blood were more likely to be diagnosed with prostate cancer. For every increase of five nanomoles in the concentration of IGF-I per litre of blood (5 nmol/L), men were 9% more likely to develop prostate cancer. For every increase of 50 picomoles of ‘free’ testosterone per litre of blood (50 pmol/L), there was a 10% increase in prostate cancer risk.

Looking at the population as a whole, the researchers say their findings correspond to a 25% greater risk in men who have the highest levels of IGF-I, compared to those with the lowest. Men with the highest ‘free’ testosterone levels face a 18% greater risk of prostate cancer, compared to those with the lowest levels.

The researchers say that because the blood tests were taken some years before the prostate cancer developed, it is likely that the hormone levels are leading to the increased risk of prostate cancer, as opposed to the cancers leading to higher levels of the hormones. Thanks to the large size of the study, the researchers were also able to take account of other factors that can influence cancer risk, including body size, socioeconomic status and diabetes.

Dr Travis said: “This type of study can’t tell us why these factors are linked, but we know that testosterone plays a role in the normal growth and function of the prostate and that IGF-I has a role in stimulating the growth of cells in our bodies.”

“What this research does tell us is that these two hormones could be a mechanism that links things like diet, lifestyle and body size with the risk of prostate cancer. This takes us a step closer to strategies for preventing the disease.”

Dr Travis and Ms Watts will continue examining the data from this study to confirm their findings. In the future, they also plan to home in on risk factors for the most aggressive types of prostate cancer.
 
Defy Medical TRT clinic doctor
I would really like to hear some comments reg this discovery. Maybe we testo people should take a step back and not push our luck too much. High FT seems not to benefit at least for older duds.
 

broker

Active Member
My doctor always thought this. Its amazing how so many guys claim its men with low levels of T that have a higher risk. Wrong !!!
I also suspect high levels of free T correspond to higher levels of DHT which may be the true culprit here.
 

M.J

Well-Known Member
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My doctor always thought this. Its amazing how so many guys claim its men with low levels of T that have a higher risk. Wrong !!!
I also suspect high levels of free T correspond to higher levels of DHT which may be the true culprit here.
Could be both low and high FT can do this, very complicated issue. The other study with low t and cancer seems solid also.
 

captain

Active Member
My doctor always thought this. Its amazing how so many guys claim its men with low levels of T that have a higher risk. Wrong !!!
I also suspect high levels of free T correspond to higher levels of DHT which may be the true culprit here.
Study says high free T not total T. This would be low SHBG causing low T and high free T with high IGF-1.
 

Vince

Super Moderator
Study says high free T not total T. This would be low SHBG causing low T and high free T with high IGF-1.
CONCLUSIONS: High levels of circulating testosterone and low levels of SHBG-both within normal endogenous ranges-are associated with increased risks of prostate cancer. Low levels of circulating estradiol may represent an additional risk factor. Circulating levels of DHT and AAG do not appear to be strongly related to prostate cancer risk.

Prospective study of sex hormone levels and risk of prostate cancer. - PubMed - NCBI
 

broker

Active Member
Vince,
The study you posted is very outdated, its from 1996.
Finasteride and Dutasteride lower DHT and reduce the risk of prostate cancer. How much? Who knows. But it does.
Men with lower levels of T with prostate cancer also seem to still have higher levels of dht in the prostate. Dht activity in the prostate increases with age despite lower levels of total T.
I think you will start to see many more men taking finasteride and dutasteride in te future.
I know quite a few men who take these medication and none have the sexual side effects that law firms like to post all over the internet. 6 that i know of currenly use it for hair loss and 2 for BPH.
One takes 1/4 tab of dutasreride for hair loss.
 

hotdog

Member
It must be really annoying for the men with low levels of these hormones who got PC during this study.

It's a bit like all the people who die of heart attack and stroke and have low cholesterol.....
 

Vince

Super Moderator
Vince,
The study you posted is very outdated, its from 1996.
Finasteride and Dutasteride lower DHT and reduce the risk of prostate cancer. How much? Who knows. But it does.
Men with lower levels of T with prostate cancer also seem to still have higher levels of dht in the prostate. Dht activity in the prostate increases with age despite lower levels of total T.
I think you will start to see many more men taking finasteride and dutasteride in te future.
I know quite a few men who take these medication and none have the sexual side effects that law firms like to post all over the internet. 6 that i know of currenly use it for hair loss and 2 for BPH.
One takes 1/4 tab of dutasreride for hair loss.
Physicians commonly blame DHT as the primary cause of an prostate enlargement but deeper analysis indicates the androgen-to-estrogen balance, along with overall androgen ratios, is the key factor with prostate issues. According to Jonathan Wright, M.D. (Maximize Your Vitality And Potency) the balance of DHT and 4-androstenedione should be 1:1. If DHT is higher and androstenedione lower, it creates a pro-carcinogenic state. However, if DHT and androstenedione levels are both high and at a 1:1 ratio, the pro-carcinogenic properties of high DHT are neutralized by the anti-carcinogenic properties of androstenedione. So if you've had blood work indicating high DHT levels, be sure to have the androstenedione levels measure as well.

Testosterone Is Great but Is Dihydrotestosterone the King of All Male Androgens? - Mahler's Aggressive Strength
 

M.J

Well-Known Member
Physicians commonly blame DHT as the primary cause of an prostate enlargement but deeper analysis indicates the androgen-to-estrogen balance, along with overall androgen ratios, is the key factor with prostate issues. According to Jonathan Wright, M.D. (Maximize Your Vitality And Potency) the balance of DHT and 4-androstenedione should be 1:1. If DHT is higher and androstenedione lower, it creates a pro-carcinogenic state. However, if DHT and androstenedione levels are both high and at a 1:1 ratio, the pro-carcinogenic properties of high DHT are neutralized by the anti-carcinogenic properties of androstenedione. So if you've had blood work indicating high DHT levels, be sure to have the androstenedione levels measure as well.

Testosterone Is Great but Is Dihydrotestosterone the King of All Male Androgens? - Mahler's Aggressive Strength
How would androstenedione go high ? For trt patients does both usually go high together ?
 

Nelson Vergel

Founder, ExcelMale.com
This does not make any sense as T and free T decrease with age.

They also did not take hormone levels but once and years before prostate cancer occurred.

"The researchers say that because the blood tests were taken some years before the prostate cancer developed "

If you want to see a review of all studies related to prostate cancer, spend a little time to educate yourself with this info:

Does Testosterone Cause Prostate Cancer? Can Men Treated for Prostate Cancer Use TRT?

Effect of DHT on Prostate and Sexual Function: Review of Studies

 

captain

Active Member
Vince,
The study you posted is very outdated, its from 1996.
Finasteride and Dutasteride lower DHT and reduce the risk of prostate cancer. How much? Who knows. But it does.
Men with lower levels of T with prostate cancer also seem to still have higher levels of dht in the prostate. Dht activity in the prostate increases with age despite lower levels of total T.
I think you will start to see many more men taking finasteride and dutasteride in te future.
I know quite a few men who take these medication and none have the sexual side effects that law firms like to post all over the internet. 6 that i know of currenly use it for hair loss and 2 for BPH.
One takes 1/4 tab of dutasreride for hair loss.

You would need to look at prolactin levels as prolactin increases DHT in the prostate. You may find men with low T have elevated prolactin.
 

madman

Super Moderator
Key points to keep in mind:

“We were interested in studying the levels of two hormones circulating in the blood because previous research suggests they could be linked with prostate cancer and because these are factors that could potentially be altered in an attempt to reduce prostate cancer risk.”

Dr Travis said: “This type of study can ’t tell us why these factors are linked, but we know that testosterone plays a role in the normal growth and function of the prostate and that IGF-I has a role in stimulating the growth of cells in our bodies.”

“What this research does tell us is that these two hormones could be a mechanism that links things like diet, lifestyle and body size with the risk of prostate cancer. This takes us a step closer to strategies for preventing the disease.”

Dr Travis and Ms Watts will continue examining the data from this study to confirm their findings. In the future, they also plan to home in on risk factors for the most aggressive types of prostate cancer.




We do not have the full study to pick apart.....no point in jumping to conclusions!


As Nelson stated....."If you want to see a review of all studies related to prostate cancer, spend a little time to educate yourself with this info"

There are numerous threads on the forum regarding prostate cancer and testosterone:


Safety of testosterone therapy in men with prostate cancer

Testosterone Therapy in Men with Advanced Prostate Cancer Posted by Abraham Morgentaler, MD, FACS | Jun 2019

Testosterone slows prostate cancer recurrence in low-risk patients

Testosterone, testosterone therapy and prostate cancer

EAU 2019: Low Free Testosterone is an Independent Risk Factor for High Grade Prostate Cancer

Sex steroids in serum and prostatic tissue of human cancerous prostate (STERKPROSER trial)

Role of Androgen Receptor in Prostate Cancer: A Review

A novel model to predict positive prostate biopsy with low free testosterone percent

Lower Circulating Androgens Are Associated with Overall Cancer Risk and Prostate Cancer Risk in Men Aged 25–84 Years from the Busselton Health Study

Case deliberations: To treat or not to treat with testosterone therapy?



Also keep in mind that regarding FT.....the most accurate testing method is Equilibrium Dialysis which is considered the gold standard or Ultrafiltration (next best) which they did not use.



The researchers studied 200,452 men who are part of the UK Biobank project. All were free of cancer when they joined the study and were not taking any hormone therapy.

The men gave blood samples that were tested for their levels of testosterone and a growth hormone called insulin-like growth factor-I (IGF-I). The researchers calculated levels of free testosterone – testosterone that is circulating in the blood and not bound to any other molecule and can therefore have an effect in the body. A subset of 9,000 of men gave a second blood sample at a later date, to help the researchers account for natural fluctuations in hormone levels.

The men were followed for an average of six to seven years to see if they went on to develop prostate cancer. Within the group, there were 5,412 cases and 296 deaths from the disease.

The researchers found that men with higher concentrations of the two hormones in their blood were more likely to be diagnosed with prostate cancer.



They calculated FT most likely using the flawed and outdated linear law-of-mass action model (Vermeulen equation)


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Current problems with accurate free testosterone determination

Current methods for measuring free testosterone (fT) are technically challenging and not accurate. The widely used direct immunoassay and tracer analog techniques for measuring fT have been shown to be inaccurate. Equilibrium dialysis, the reference method against which other methods are compared, is labor-intensive and cumbersome, and therefore has had limited clinical adoption. As an alternative, free testosterone can be computed from the total testosterone, SHBG, and albumin concentrations. Recently, Endocrine Society’s Expert Panel acknowledged the experimental problems in fT measurements and concluded that "...the calculation of free testosterone is the most useful estimate of free testosterone in plasma..." However, we have demonstrated that even the calculated fT values derived from the prevailing equations, based on linear law-of-mass action models or empiric equations, differ systematically from free testosterone measured by equilibrium dialysis by as much as 40%.
 
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M.J

Well-Known Member
You would need to look at prolactin levels as prolactin increases DHT in the prostate. You may find men with low T have elevated prolactin.
I have low T and prolactin is not even middle range more towered the low side, in fact once I started ginseng (which lowered my e and increase prolatine) I can feel my interaction with kids increased and became abit more family oriented in a good way. After trt I had the same thing, After reading seems like prolactin increase the parenting behavior or whatever that is.

also psa not really crazy low for my age around 1.5 age 38.
 
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captain

Active Member
You watch levels so if you are 1.8 every time you test that would be good. If your PSA is 2.1 next time then 2.8 the next and keeps rising up and over normal range you could have a problem. I have seen it in a person with cancer. You will clearly see it on your labs as they rise. One set of labs don't tell you much unless it comes back sky high.
 

TorontoTRT

Active Member
Could it be just inflammation or something? 2 years ago it was 0.93 then I started trt. 3 months into TRT it dropped to 0.77 with a free PSA % total of 35% and 45% which is good. But now randomly 10 months after that it's 1.8. it does feel slightly irritated due to constipation and huge bowel movements and straining which I think irritates the prostate as it's right there.
 

hotdog

Member
Absolutely, the most likely scenario is prostatitis, an often symptomless bacterial infection of the prostate. You will also find many threads on this site discussing sex, bike riding etc as possibly the cause. Inflammation can also occur for known and unknown reasons, so there's way more likelihood of you having something along these lines going on.
 
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