HCG and Water rentention

[Weasel]

Quick Question,

I'd been off HCG for awhile and was down to 216lbs from about 235ish in about a month. Which I was happy about, 6 pack abs and plenty of muscle mass. I wasn't trying to lose weight during this time either.

Dr Saya added back in 200iu EOD of HCG. In & days I'm up to 225lbs in 7 days. Obviously i couldnt have added 9lbs of fat in 7 days. My diet has not changed much if any. My gym routine has been more intense if anything.

Could the adddition of HCG really caused that much water retention? It seems hard to believe but i dont know what else would have caused it. I just look and feel soft.

Anyone else experience anything like this?

 

[Vince Carter]

Some of us kind of loath HCG for that very reason thru aromatase in the testes that estrogen is harder to control, in the testes, with an AI, that's likely where the water retention stems from HCG=Estrogen=water retention.
IMHO 200iu EOD...maybe you need 200 E3.5D, less frequency than EOD. Any other negatives like night sweats or sensitive nipples...or just the water retention?

 

[Weasel]

Some of us kind of loath HCG for that very reason thru aromatase in the testes that estrogen is harder to control, in the testes, with an AI, that's likely where the water retention stems from HCG=Estrogen=water retention.
IMHO 200iu EOD...maybe you need 200 E3.5D, less frequency than EOD. Any other negatives like night sweats or sensitive nipples...or just the water retention?

I felt like it gave my libido a nice boost for the first maybe 2-3 days. Nocturnal erections were happening again. That seems to have wained and maybe is now worse than with no HCG.

Only thing i've been noticing is water rentention. Nipples feel fine.

 

[thatoneguy]

I've been experiencing the same thing I believe. Since I started trt with hcg I've gained approximately 20lbs in 3 months. While some of that may be muscle I doubt all 20lbs of it is, I have very little muscle definition and I believe it has to do with water weight.

No nipple sensitivity either

 

[Nelson Vergel]

Yes, HCG can cause water retention and bloating in some men. It is not all estradiol related. I have been looking for data on its effect on aldosterone but have found nothing yet.

Several members have complained about this issue.

Water Retention from HCG
In some cases, it seems that water retention tends to normalize after a few weeks.

Water Retention Caused by Anabolics and Testosterone

 

[Vince]

I inject 500iu of HCG twice a week for almost two years now, never had a problem with water retention. But I know we are all different.

 

[Weasel]

I inject 500iu of HCG twice a week for almost two years now, never had a problem with water retention. But I know we are all different.

I never realized it until I started using it again. I had used it for a couple years including about a year of HCG mono. Now when I added it back in, I noticed it almost immediately. Maybe because I was cut enough to notice the loss of definition.

 

[Vince Carter]

I think I'm heading back to 100iu E3.5D, I just don't get anything from it, besides I know my nuts are still alive but there's nothing else there for me, no sense of wellbeing, libido bump, nada.

 

[thatoneguy]

Does an AI help reduce the water retention?

Had anyone tried some kind of diuretic while on hcg to counter the water weight without the need for an AI?

Or does smaller more frequent dose help reduce the water weight gain?

 

[Weasel]

Does an AI help reduce the water retention?

Had anyone tried some kind of diuretic while on hcg to counter the water weight without the need for an AI?

Or does smaller more frequent dose help reduce the water weight gain?

all excellent questions that I have no answers for. I'll suspect in my case an AI wont help because I don't believe in my case it is due to elevated e2. just a side effect of HCG

 

[Speed]

No HCG for me. It was causing terrible water retention and HIGH e2 that Arimidex could not control. Had mood swings, ED issues. But now without HCG and T only I feel great with raging libido and perfect mood. E2 is normal without AI

 

[Weasel]

No HCG for me. It was causing terrible water retention and HIGH e2 that Arimidex could not control. Had mood swings, ED issues. But now without HCG and T only I feel great with raging libido and perfect mood. E2 is normal without AI

Excellent info, Are you back filling that LH pathway with preg/dhea? or you just leaving it be?

 

[Speed]

Nothing and I feel wonderful

 

[Vince]

I never realized it until I started using it again. I had used it for a couple years including about a year of HCG mono. Now when I added it back in, I noticed it almost immediately. Maybe because I was cut enough to notice the loss of definition.

I really believe that I don't get water retention, but I definitely get an increase in my libido and testicles.

 

[Pursuit_Sanus]

I can concur. Just started TRT again. 200mg Test, 500iu HCG 2/w, .5mg Arimidex 2/w. I've gained 10lbs within the first 5 weeks and have noticed what looks like edema in the lower legs from my dress socks. Just did follow-up labs and waiting for the follow-up appointment. Am interested to see the numbers.

 

[audiogeek247]

why is no one answering the option of using a low dose diuretic, does that open up another can of worms?

 

[Nelson Vergel]

I have used diuretics like hydrochlorothiazide when it gets bad with good results. But no more than once per week when it gets bad. I have to say that carbs (especially if I drink alcohol) and when I skip my 30 min of cardio at least 3 times per week, make it worse.

 

[Vince Carter]

why is no one answering the option of using a low dose diuretic, does that open up another can of worms?

I really don't hear anyone here using them, I do also think that their prescription so the access could be limited.

 

[Vince]

why is no one answering the option of using a low dose diuretic, does that open up another can of worms?

I believe that's more for people with kidney problems. http://drugs.nmihi.com/diuretics.htm

 

[PeteMitchell]

speed, how much test cyp are you taking per week?