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Testosterone Replacement, Low T, HCG, & Beyond
When Testosterone Is Not Enough
Fertility with HCG + SERM? HMG/rhFSH Impossible to get in Australia
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<blockquote data-quote="Adamsapple" data-source="post: 248774" data-attributes="member: 45090"><p>Thanks very much, [USER=43264]@aneuman[/USER] for such a comprehensive response. Extremely useful.</p><p></p><p>Sorry, I should've clarified I'm aware of how each HCG and Clomid work in isolation, I mean to ask about the effects on the hypothalamus and pituarity signalling of FSH while both HCG and Clomid are acting in your system.</p><p></p><p>Since the sertoli cells produce sperm when it is signalled from presence of both testosterone and FSH; I just wanted to make sure HCG use did not result in a negative feedback mechanism on producing FSH (noting I can't access HMG/rFSH). From what you've said, it seems it won't and Clomid will play a role in helping with raising FSH. </p><p></p><p>I am hopeful that it is secondary hypogonadism, and my hypothalamus and pituitary are functioning, given I have lost and regained fertility several times in the past decade with coming on/off testosterone.</p><p></p><p>Many thanks again, this has put my mind at ease to continue with the protocol. </p><p></p><p>Side note that it's not always the case that doctors globally help or know what's best. In Australia we are extremely regulated, conservative and stuck in the 1990s for treatment of AAS induced male infertility - the standard procedure is to just wait after coming off testosterone (ignoring the fact it can take 12 months for spermatozoa without intervention). Only some endocrinologists and urologists are recently starting to prescribe SERMs for secondary Hypogonadism. My doctors say HCG is not permitted to be prescribed for male fertility. I've been lucky because of male health clinics somehow are still able to prescribe it for low testosterone. I stopped test a month ago and am willing to do whatever it takes but not when the common practice across average standard of healthcare overseas can produce better health outcomes for me and my family.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Adamsapple, post: 248774, member: 45090"] Thanks very much, [USER=43264]@aneuman[/USER] for such a comprehensive response. Extremely useful. Sorry, I should've clarified I'm aware of how each HCG and Clomid work in isolation, I mean to ask about the effects on the hypothalamus and pituarity signalling of FSH while both HCG and Clomid are acting in your system. Since the sertoli cells produce sperm when it is signalled from presence of both testosterone and FSH; I just wanted to make sure HCG use did not result in a negative feedback mechanism on producing FSH (noting I can't access HMG/rFSH). From what you've said, it seems it won't and Clomid will play a role in helping with raising FSH. I am hopeful that it is secondary hypogonadism, and my hypothalamus and pituitary are functioning, given I have lost and regained fertility several times in the past decade with coming on/off testosterone. Many thanks again, this has put my mind at ease to continue with the protocol. Side note that it's not always the case that doctors globally help or know what's best. In Australia we are extremely regulated, conservative and stuck in the 1990s for treatment of AAS induced male infertility - the standard procedure is to just wait after coming off testosterone (ignoring the fact it can take 12 months for spermatozoa without intervention). Only some endocrinologists and urologists are recently starting to prescribe SERMs for secondary Hypogonadism. My doctors say HCG is not permitted to be prescribed for male fertility. I've been lucky because of male health clinics somehow are still able to prescribe it for low testosterone. I stopped test a month ago and am willing to do whatever it takes but not when the common practice across average standard of healthcare overseas can produce better health outcomes for me and my family. [/QUOTE]
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When Testosterone Is Not Enough
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