ED vs EOD - Any difference?

[S1W]

For those of you who have tried both EOD and ED injections, was there any significant difference, either in how you felt or in your lab results?

I ask because it appears that assuming the same weekly dose, average levels on ED and EOD would be exactly the same (using cypionate).

 

[Systemlord]

I notice a massive difference going from an EOD to a ED protocol, I felt no peaks and troughs during the 6 week adjustment period. I didn't feel as if I was on a hormonal roller coaster and estrogen was well controlled.

I went back to an EOD protocol do to strange skin issues and started experiencing big fluctuations again that I didn't experience on daily injections. My levels were lower on ED and would have needed higher levels on an EOD protocol to feel the same.

 

[S1W]

I notice a massive difference going from an EOD to a ED protocol, I felt no peaks and troughs during the 6 week adjustment period. I didn't feel as if I was on a hormonal roller coaster and estrogen was well controlled.

I went back to an EOD protocol do to strange skin issues and started experiencing big fluctuations again that I didn't experience on daily injections. My levels were lower on ED and would have needed higher levels on an EOD protocol to feel the same.

Sounds like aside from the skin issues, you felt better on ED?

 

[Blackhawk]

I notice a massive difference going from an EOD to a ED protocol, I felt no peaks and troughs during the 6 week adjustment period. I didn't feel as if I was on a hormonal roller coaster and estrogen was well controlled.

I went back to an EOD protocol do to strange skin issues and started experiencing big fluctuations again that I didn't experience on daily injections. My levels were lower on ED and would have needed higher levels on an EOD protocol to feel the same.

I don't remember that well, but seems you had low SHBG?

 

[Vince Carter]

Most guys and me and SystemLord are a little different but daily injections should be reserved for the most difficult cases. If you're a rather normal guy in that way you shouldn't need to go beyond EOD, possibly some diminishing returns, even staying committed to sticking yourself every day can be fatiguing mentally.

IMO

 

[Systemlord]

Sounds like aside from the skin issues, you felt better on ED?

I did feel better on ED. My SHBG is on the lower end (22).

 

[MarcoFL]

I did feel better on ED. My SHBG is on the lower end (22).

SL, what would you recommend if I have a 60 SHBG, 1200TT and 22FT, 48 E2 sensitive. currently on MWF. Vince C had said I might be better on EOD? Thank you, Mark

 

[Cataceous]

I didn't notice much difference going from EOD to ED with T enanthate. But a subsequent shift to ED T propionate yielded improvements.

 

[Gman86]

I didn't notice much difference going from EOD to ED with T enanthate. But a subsequent shift to ED T propionate yielded improvements.

What’s your SHBG Cataceous? I’m doing EOD with prop. Tried ED, but it was surprisingly a little annoying imo. EOD is perfect for me. But will switch to ED if it makes me feel better while on prop.

 

[Cataceous]

What’s your SHBG Cataceous? I’m doing EOD with prop. Tried ED, but it was surprisingly a little annoying imo. EOD is perfect for me. But will switch to ED if it makes me feel better while on prop.

SHBG is around 30 nmol/L. Prior to TRT it was always low 40s. ED injecting is somewhat annoying when there's also EOD hCG. But I'm finding it's worth it. Admittedly I haven't tried EOD propionate, as I'm trying to have a diurnal rhythm.

 

[Systemlord]

SL, what would you recommend if I have a 60 SHBG, 1200TT and 22FT, 48 E2 sensitive. currently on MWF. Vince C had said I might be better on EOD? Thank you, Mark

An EOD protocol is a good starting place, no need to commit to an ED protocol this soon in the game. We can keep the ED protocol it in our toolbox if needed.

 

[tcmi]

I did ED for several months. Switched to EOD and can’t say I noticed much difference at all. Given that, I’ll stick with EOD as it’s a little less hassle.

 

[antelopers]

I notice a massive difference going from an EOD to a ED protocol, I felt no peaks and troughs during the 6 week adjustment period. I didn't feel as if I was on a hormonal roller coaster and estrogen was well controlled.

I went back to an EOD protocol do to strange skin issues and started experiencing big fluctuations again that I didn't experience on daily injections. My levels were lower on ED and would have needed higher levels on an EOD protocol to feel the same.

What type of skin issues were you experiencing?

 

[Systemlord]

What type of skin issues were you experiencing?

Skin would turn red and red spider webs that itched and burned, it happens briefly on an EOD protocol in the first 6 weeks, then subsides, but is so minor and infrequent it never raised an eyebrow until I attempted a daily protocol.

Liver function is excellent, bile ducts looks great.

 

[Mr S]

Skin would turn red and red spider webs that itched and burned, it happens briefly on an EOD protocol in the first 6 weeks, then subsides, but is so minor and infrequent it never raised an eyebrow until I attempted a daily protocol.

Liver function is excellent, bile ducts looks great.

EOD as I understand it, will change the days I inject. I found that hard to follow I decided to go ED. However, the small amount of T Cypionate in the syringe makes me wonder if I’m wasting more than injecting. ED injections cleared my chest acne but I also lowered my dose from 140mg to 100mg per week. Why would it be a last resource to do ED injections? I don’t mind the needle but I mind the drawing from the tiny vile into the syringe. I started ED injections following Jim Campbell’s advice who claims daily injections will mimic the “real thing” more accurately and keep your peaks and valleys to a minimum which made sense to me.

 

[Systemlord]

EOD as I understand it, will change the days I inject. I found that hard to follow I decided to go ED. However, the small amount of T Cypionate in the syringe makes me wonder if I’m wasting more than injecting. ED injections cleared my chest acne but I also lowered my dose from 140mg to 100mg per week. Why would it be a last resource to do ED injections? I don’t mind the needle but I mind the drawing from the tiny vile into the syringe. I started ED injections following Jim Campbell’s advice who claims daily injections will mimic the “real thing” more accurately and keep your peaks and valleys to a minimum which made sense to me.

I created several repeating alarms on my phone to go off every 14 days, works like a charm.

Set the alarm for Monday, 8:00 am every 14 days and so on.

 

[Mr S]

I created several repeating alarms on my phone to go off every 14 days, works like a charm.

Set the alarm for Monday, 8:00 am every 14 days and so on.

Thanks! In the age of technology it never crossed my mind to do that. Clever.

 

[Gman86]

I did ED for several months. Switched to EOD and can’t say I noticed much difference at all. Given that, I’ll stick with EOD as it’s a little less hassle.

You’re using cypionate?

 

[Mr S]

Skin would turn red and red spider webs that itched and burned, it happens briefly on an EOD protocol in the first 6 weeks, then subsides, but is so minor and infrequent it never raised an eyebrow until I attempted a daily protocol.

Liver function is excellent, bile ducts looks great.

What’s your T dosage?

 

[Systemlord]

What’s your T dosage?

23mg EOD or 92mg weekly, it seems 20mg EOD is no longer getting the same levels.