Blood coming out from Delt injection Shallow IM?

[GeorgieBoy]

I started Shallow IM injections a week ago, alternating Delts for now to keep it simple. I use a 29G 1/2'' insulin syringe.
Every day has been painless and bloodless until today, when it hurt more going in and when I pulled out some blood came out. Not much, just a drop that went down my shoulder but still.

I'm sure I hit the muscle pretty much in the middle of the inverted triangle. I can't imagine I would already have scar tissue there after just 3 injections/Delt. Is this normal, does it just happen once in a while? Does it mean some of the Test leaked out with the blood?

 

[madman]

I started Shallow IM injections a week ago, alternating Delts for now to keep it simple. I use a 29G 1/2'' insulin syringe.
Every day has been painless and bloodless until today, when it hurt more going in and when I pulled out some blood came out. Not much, just a drop that went down my shoulder but still.

I'm sure I hit the muscle pretty much in the middle of the inverted triangle. I can't imagine I would already have scar tissue there after just 3 injections/Delt. Is this normal, does it just happen once in a while? Does it mean some of the Test leaked out with the blood?

Most likely nicked a blood vessel.

Any loss of the oily solution would be minuscule.

 

[GeorgieBoy]

Most likely nicked a blood vessel.

Any loss of the oily solution would be minuscule.

Is there a way to avoid those? Does it not matter? I don't care at all about the blood or the pain, I'm just concerned about avoiding long term damage to my muscles or tissue in general.

 

[madman]

Is there a way to avoid those? Does it not matter? I don't care at all about the blood or the pain, I'm just concerned about avoiding long term damage to my muscles or tissue in general.

I would not worry unless it was happening every time you inject.

A drop of blood after pulling out happens now and then no big deal.

Any time you inject IM you are going to get scar tissue but it will be minimal when using an insulin syringe.

You have many other injection sites to use whether injecting IM or sub-q.

 

[madman]

I would not worry unless it was happening every time you inject.

A drop of blood after pulling out happens now and then no big deal.

Any time you inject IM you are going to get scar tissue but it will be minimal when using an insulin syringe.

You have many other injection sites to use whether injecting IM or sub-q.

 

[Vince]

I started Shallow IM injections a week ago, alternating Delts for now to keep it simple. I use a 29G 1/2'' insulin syringe.
Every day has been painless and bloodless until today, when it hurt more going in and when I pulled out some blood came out. Not much, just a drop that went down my shoulder but still.

I'm sure I hit the muscle pretty much in the middle of the inverted triangle. I can't imagine I would already have scar tissue there after just 3 injections/Delt. Is this normal, does it just happen once in a while? Does it mean some of the Test leaked out with the blood?

Once when I injected in my shoulder, the blood squirted out and hit the bathroom mirror. I clean up my mess and just moved on. No big deal, but if you’re new, it may feel like a big deal.

 

[GeorgieBoy]

I would not worry unless it was happening every time you inject.

A drop of blood after pulling out happens now and then no big deal.

Any time you inject IM you are going to get scar tissue but it will be minimal when using an insulin syringe.

You have many other injection sites to use whether injecting IM or sub-q.

Does the scar tissue go away eventually? If not, wouldn't it become a problem over time after decades of injecting, even with small 29G needles?

 

[GeorgieBoy]

Once when I injected in my shoulder, the blood squirted out and hit the bathroom mirror. I clean up my mess and just moved on. No big deal, but if you’re new, it may feel like a big deal.

Thanks Vince, that's definitely reassuring. I don't care about the blood but always worry about causing permanent internal damage.

 

[madman]

Does the scar tissue go away eventually? If not, wouldn't it become a problem over time after decades of injecting, even with small 29G needles?

Repeated injections into the same muscle can cause trauma/scarring and it will be permanent mind you scar tissue softens up over time.

I would be more concerned if you were using 22G mini-harpoons

Scar tissue will be minimized when using a 27-31G needle.

Make sure to switch or rotate the place you inject, each time you inject.
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If you are on once weekly or twice weekly protocol than you will be poking yourself less often than when injecting daily/EOD.

 

[bluerage]

How often do you guys leak blood after an injection? I inject shallow IM EOD and rotate between glutes and delts. I'm going to guess I leak blood 40-50% of my injections. Does this seem like a lot?

 

[madman]

How often do you guys leak blood after an injection? I inject shallow IM EOD and rotate between glutes and delts. I'm going to guess I leak blood 40-50% of my injections. Does this seem like a lot?

I inject strictly sub-q and it is very rare that this happens and if anything most of the time you will not see anything except red pinprick from the injection.

 

[Vince]

I inject shallow IM, with an easy touch 29 g 1/2” syringe. Occasional I will get some bruising or blood leakage. I’m getting more careful with my injections and knowing where to inject. So I can avoid bruising and blood.

 

[madman]

How often do you guys leak blood after an injection? I inject shallow IM EOD and rotate between glutes and delts. I'm going to guess I leak blood 40-50% of my injections. Does this seem like a lot?

Keep in mind that I use 31G x 6MM needle length and I have also used 28G x 12.7MM and 30G x 8MM.

The size of the needle is much smaller than 22-25G.

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[GeorgieBoy]

I inject strictly sub-q and it is very rare that this happens and if anything most of the time you will not see anything except red pinprick from the injection.

I think I remember you saying somewhere you do 2x/week injections. Does that work subQ? It seems even at 60-70mg twice a week, that would be a lot for a subQ injection.

 

[madman]

I think I remember you saying somewhere you do 2x/week injections. Does that work subQ? It seems even at 60-70mg twice a week, that would be a lot for a subQ injection.

Does that work subQ?

-absorption/effectiveness/injection frequency?

It seems even at 60-70mg twice a week, that would be a lot for a subQ injection.

-dose T/volume injection?

 

[Cips1975]

I started Shallow IM injections a week ago, alternating Delts for now to keep it simple. I use a 29G 1/2'' insulin syringe.
Every day has been painless and bloodless until today, when it hurt more going in and when I pulled out some blood came out. Not much, just a drop that went down my shoulder but still.

I'm sure I hit the muscle pretty much in the middle of the inverted triangle. I can't imagine I would already have scar tissue there after just 3 injections/Delt. Is this normal, does it just happen once in a while? Does it mean some of the Test leaked out with the blood?

Not a big deal. Par for the course. Some shots are smooth others might prick a bit and cause a little blood. I mean you are sticking a metal pin into your body. I am more worried about shaving my face and getting a cut verses my IM injections. Shaved the other day and hit a good cut and took like 20 minutes to stop. Damn Mach 3’s