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Clinical Use of Anabolics and Hormones
Clinical Use of Anabolics and Hormones
Another nandrolone question, re potential cardiac issues
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<blockquote data-quote="Gman86" data-source="post: 202596" data-attributes="member: 15043"><p>Dr Lichten has also been using nandrolone with his patients for years. Isn’t there a chance that the supposed cardio and neuro toxicity of nandrolone, in studies, is due to its extremely low conversion into E2? Even without studies, all it takes is a little common sense to realize that therapeutic doses of nandrolone, by itself, would result in having chronic low E2 symptoms, which as far as I know, would increase ur risk of cardiovascular damage/ disease, as well as damage neurons overtime. Not saying that low E2 is the reason these things have shown up in nandrolone only studies, but I just think it would be a pretty crazy coincidence if these things were occurring due to some other effect(s) nandrolone was having in the body, when they line up pretty perfectly with chronic low E2 symptoms, which someone would have using therapeutic doses of nandrolone overtime. Ive seen 3 sets of labs from 3 different men, all on 300mg of nandrolone by itself. All 3 men’s E2 came back between 5-6. And in a steroid fb group a guy posted his labs while using 900mg of deca only per week, and his E2 came back at 18. A therapeutic dosage of nandrolone would be around 200mg, or less, per week I would imagine. So you can imagine where 200mg or less of nandrolone by itself would have a man’s E2 levels at. I’m assuming at the very top end 10 or less, and on the low end 5 or less </p><p></p><p>I would love to see studies done while using therapeutic doses of nandrolone, along with enough estradiol to get E2 into a healthy range, and see if the same cardio and neuro toxicity occurs</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Gman86, post: 202596, member: 15043"] Dr Lichten has also been using nandrolone with his patients for years. Isn’t there a chance that the supposed cardio and neuro toxicity of nandrolone, in studies, is due to its extremely low conversion into E2? Even without studies, all it takes is a little common sense to realize that therapeutic doses of nandrolone, by itself, would result in having chronic low E2 symptoms, which as far as I know, would increase ur risk of cardiovascular damage/ disease, as well as damage neurons overtime. Not saying that low E2 is the reason these things have shown up in nandrolone only studies, but I just think it would be a pretty crazy coincidence if these things were occurring due to some other effect(s) nandrolone was having in the body, when they line up pretty perfectly with chronic low E2 symptoms, which someone would have using therapeutic doses of nandrolone overtime. Ive seen 3 sets of labs from 3 different men, all on 300mg of nandrolone by itself. All 3 men’s E2 came back between 5-6. And in a steroid fb group a guy posted his labs while using 900mg of deca only per week, and his E2 came back at 18. A therapeutic dosage of nandrolone would be around 200mg, or less, per week I would imagine. So you can imagine where 200mg or less of nandrolone by itself would have a man’s E2 levels at. I’m assuming at the very top end 10 or less, and on the low end 5 or less I would love to see studies done while using therapeutic doses of nandrolone, along with enough estradiol to get E2 into a healthy range, and see if the same cardio and neuro toxicity occurs [/QUOTE]
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Clinical Use of Anabolics and Hormones
Clinical Use of Anabolics and Hormones
Another nandrolone question, re potential cardiac issues
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