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3 grains of NDT not working - what's the next step?
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<blockquote data-quote="ratbag" data-source="post: 105937" data-attributes="member: 972"><p>1 grain is equal to 60-65mg of NDT, which is usually 1 tablet. There are many brands of NDT that do not work! Also many of the top brands in the past were re-manufactured at some point and became no good. This is something many do not know about. As VC said Armour is considered one of those that doesn't work well. Even the best manufacturers of NDT have had their problems with the result being their NDT didn't work. This is the problem with using NDT. You end up with stuff that doesn't work and you go back to being hypothyroid yet your thinking you are ok because you are taking it. </p><p></p><p>I gave up on this game and switched to synthetics (cytomel and synthroid) At least the synthetics work all the time. On four different occasions my MD Rx'd me NDT that I purchased thru my pharmacy and everyone of those (4 different brands) of NDT failed for one reason or another and the pharmacy had no idea. For this reason you cannot trust NDT. Having said that the brand I trust the most is Thyroid-S or Thiroid. It's available from Thailand online for a great price. It has had issues too but not as often as other manufacturers. </p><p></p><p>Mr. T your labs indicate you have something that doesn't work or... you are not taking enough. I believe STTM concluded long ago that most need a minimum of 2 grains daily (120-130mg) anyone dosing less than 120mg daily simply isn't getting enough T3.</p><p></p><p>Dosing T3 or NDT cannot be done by labs or numbers. This is why all the best MD's say you should try it even if your labs look ok. Numbers are useless with thyroid except when your labs are all low then you know for sure you need T3 or NDT. Getting the correct dose of T3 or NDT is best described by Broda Barnes. He's the one who wrote books on books on how to treat thyroid successfully without the use of the TSH or other labs. </p><p></p><p>I believe the current best practise is to start at 2 grains, keep it there for 2 weeks and raise it to 3 grains. Again hold it for 2 weeks and raise to 4 grains and so forth. You keep doing this until you feel your hypothyroid symptoms disappear. Then you know when you have reached the correct dosage. But before you do this you must be sure your cortisol levels are ok and that your ferritin isn't too low. Low cortisol and low ferritin cause high RT3 which essentially shuts down your T3 receptors and causes any T3 you are taking to pool in your bloodstream.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ratbag, post: 105937, member: 972"] 1 grain is equal to 60-65mg of NDT, which is usually 1 tablet. There are many brands of NDT that do not work! Also many of the top brands in the past were re-manufactured at some point and became no good. This is something many do not know about. As VC said Armour is considered one of those that doesn't work well. Even the best manufacturers of NDT have had their problems with the result being their NDT didn't work. This is the problem with using NDT. You end up with stuff that doesn't work and you go back to being hypothyroid yet your thinking you are ok because you are taking it. I gave up on this game and switched to synthetics (cytomel and synthroid) At least the synthetics work all the time. On four different occasions my MD Rx'd me NDT that I purchased thru my pharmacy and everyone of those (4 different brands) of NDT failed for one reason or another and the pharmacy had no idea. For this reason you cannot trust NDT. Having said that the brand I trust the most is Thyroid-S or Thiroid. It's available from Thailand online for a great price. It has had issues too but not as often as other manufacturers. Mr. T your labs indicate you have something that doesn't work or... you are not taking enough. I believe STTM concluded long ago that most need a minimum of 2 grains daily (120-130mg) anyone dosing less than 120mg daily simply isn't getting enough T3. Dosing T3 or NDT cannot be done by labs or numbers. This is why all the best MD's say you should try it even if your labs look ok. Numbers are useless with thyroid except when your labs are all low then you know for sure you need T3 or NDT. Getting the correct dose of T3 or NDT is best described by Broda Barnes. He's the one who wrote books on books on how to treat thyroid successfully without the use of the TSH or other labs. I believe the current best practise is to start at 2 grains, keep it there for 2 weeks and raise it to 3 grains. Again hold it for 2 weeks and raise to 4 grains and so forth. You keep doing this until you feel your hypothyroid symptoms disappear. Then you know when you have reached the correct dosage. But before you do this you must be sure your cortisol levels are ok and that your ferritin isn't too low. Low cortisol and low ferritin cause high RT3 which essentially shuts down your T3 receptors and causes any T3 you are taking to pool in your bloodstream. [/QUOTE]
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3 grains of NDT not working - what's the next step?
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