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Testosterone Replacement, Low T, HCG, & Beyond
Testosterone Side Effect Management
2 years of insomnia on Test C- various dosages
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<blockquote data-quote="Cataceous" data-source="post: 248963" data-attributes="member: 38109"><p>With daily injections of testosterone cypionate your peaks are likely only a few percent over troughs—meaning levels are actually very steady. In healthy young men we see a pronounced diurnal rhythm in serum testosterone, with levels hitting lows in the evenings and then rising overnight. One hypothesis is that relatively high levels earlier in the night are more likely to interfere with sleep, and maybe it's better for hormone receptors to see lower levels for part of each day. No form of TRT makes it easy to mimic a normal diurnal rhythm. The best approximation I've found is to inject an enanthate/propionate blend early each morning. This seems to work pretty well, as propionate raises serum levels fairly quickly, allowing one to "catch up" to the natural pattern. There's still divergence at night, with levels falling steadily rather than rising. But a number of us have found that this pattern still leads to improved sleep, ostensibly due to reduced levels earlier in the night.</p><p></p><p>In your shoes I would try the simple dose reduction first. That 80 mg of testosterone cypionate per week still represents more testosterone than the average healthy young guy makes naturally. Ideally you'd give it a couple of months for things to settle down. If you're still having problems after that then you can consider further reductions, or else look into using a custom cypionate/propionate blend. In any case, don't be swayed by more-is-better thinking with respect to testosterone. In general it's only better for muscles and athleticism; other parameters, including sleep, tend to suffer from excess. Read through my <a href="https://www.excelmale.com/forum/threads/answering-some-questions-new-to-forum-much-appreciated.26955/post-245316" target="_blank">collection of anecdotes</a>, where guys find lower dosing is better. My experience is similar, with an initial dose of 100 mg testosterone cypionate per week—split to EOD—creating as many problems as it solved. Over the years it's been reduced to the equivalent of 44 mg cypionate per week, taken as daily injections of an enanthate/propionate blend.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Cataceous, post: 248963, member: 38109"] With daily injections of testosterone cypionate your peaks are likely only a few percent over troughs—meaning levels are actually very steady. In healthy young men we see a pronounced diurnal rhythm in serum testosterone, with levels hitting lows in the evenings and then rising overnight. One hypothesis is that relatively high levels earlier in the night are more likely to interfere with sleep, and maybe it's better for hormone receptors to see lower levels for part of each day. No form of TRT makes it easy to mimic a normal diurnal rhythm. The best approximation I've found is to inject an enanthate/propionate blend early each morning. This seems to work pretty well, as propionate raises serum levels fairly quickly, allowing one to "catch up" to the natural pattern. There's still divergence at night, with levels falling steadily rather than rising. But a number of us have found that this pattern still leads to improved sleep, ostensibly due to reduced levels earlier in the night. In your shoes I would try the simple dose reduction first. That 80 mg of testosterone cypionate per week still represents more testosterone than the average healthy young guy makes naturally. Ideally you'd give it a couple of months for things to settle down. If you're still having problems after that then you can consider further reductions, or else look into using a custom cypionate/propionate blend. In any case, don't be swayed by more-is-better thinking with respect to testosterone. In general it's only better for muscles and athleticism; other parameters, including sleep, tend to suffer from excess. Read through my [URL='https://www.excelmale.com/forum/threads/answering-some-questions-new-to-forum-much-appreciated.26955/post-245316']collection of anecdotes[/URL], where guys find lower dosing is better. My experience is similar, with an initial dose of 100 mg testosterone cypionate per week—split to EOD—creating as many problems as it solved. Over the years it's been reduced to the equivalent of 44 mg cypionate per week, taken as daily injections of an enanthate/propionate blend. [/QUOTE]
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