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    Will testicles return to original size on HCG?

    Been on TRT for 4 years. My dosing schedule and bloods are all dialed and have been for 6+ months. I’m only taking Test Cyp, no other meds for TRT. My testicles have shrunk by more than half and are slightly less than the size of a grape. Will starting HCG thru Defy or another men’s clinic...
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    HCG and elevated LH in Alzheimer patients

    While browsing alzheimmer info for my girl's aging mother, I came accross some studies that made me think my HCG use... Elevated gonadotropin levels in patients with Alzheimer disease https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/11560301/ The Contribution of Luteinizing Hormone to Alzheimer Disease...
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    Feel amazing after adding low dose HCG?

    Ive been prescribed TRT for about 4 years now and just recently added low dose HCG (250 mg every 3 days) and wow I feel incredible. mood is up, energy is high and anxiety down. Whats the reasoning behind this? anyone else have a similar experience ?
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    HCG low E2

    Few years ago I crashed my e2 from AI. Since that I suffer from low e2 for months even on 350mg of test per week. Now I can manage my e2 only by test E but I don’t feel well balanced on any level of e2.. Definitely I am missing something, my DHEA is low, my Pregnenolone is low, my progesterone...
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    Hcg, Pregnenolone Temporary Sex Drive Increase

    Hello everyone, Ive been struggling with sex drive ever since starting trt and before. The only times i had normal sex drive was when i introduced something new to my protocol like a higher dose, hcg and before trt when adding a high dose serm. But its always short lived. Low dose hcg does...
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    HCG from India

    So I gave up trying to find HCG through clinics. I was either told that I could get it, but it would be expensive, or I could get it, but it might take a while, or I could get it, but our deliveries have been spotty....so, I decided to give ReliableRx a try and ordered ZyHCG from them. I know...
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    Zyhcg hCG 10000 IU from Reliable

    Does anybody use Zyhcg? I bought Zyhcg hCG 10000 IU from Reliable and it came with only 2ml of reconstitution water. Normally I use a 6000 IU hCG reconstituted with 6 ml of water and I inject .25 ml (25 units) twice a week. Can I use this or is it a throw away?
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    Does HCG cause eye floaters?

    I have been on 400iu's of HCG per week for 2 years, along with 70mg test cypionate per week,15mg of amour thyroid daily and cialis 5 mg/day. I have noticed a marked increase in eye floaters. Can these be due to the HCG?
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    HCG + HMG only

    Has anybody ever tried HCG + HMG only (dropping Testosterone) for fertility or other reasons? Curious to hear your experience both in terms of fertility results, overall feeling compared to being on testosterone.
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    Pharmacies that will sell HCG?

    My clinic moved me to Gonadorelin as their pharmacy of choice can't do HCG any longer. My doctor says if I can find a pharmacy that will do HCG at a reasonable price, he will send the scrip there -- now the hard part: where to find one that will sell HCG at a reasonable price. Any pointers?
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    HCG & Gynecomastia

    QQ. If one’s E2 levels were within range is it safe to say you probably won’t get gyno while on TRT & HCG? Or is it when the HCG pushes your E2 above the normal threshold that you’re prone to getting gyno? And I’m mostly referring to pseudogynocastemia not the lump kind behind the nipple. Thanks...
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    Oral Enclomiphene Citrate help

    So I’m confused about Oral Enclomiphene Citrate. My supplier sent me this instead of the regular HCG. And from what I’ve read, it seems like this might be a replacement for my testosterone shots rather then an add on. It’s 12.5 twice a week. plus my FH and LH have been low for awhile. But...
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    Increasing T Dose - Does it affect fertility?

    Hello everyone, Im going to keep this post short. I've been on TRT for two years now on 100mg T enanthate / week. I'm also taking HCG ( 300IU 3x / week) and HMG ( 75IU 3x / week ). This brought my fertility back to normal. I'm planning to become a father so decided to keep both the HCG and...
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    HCG and High Blood Pressure?

    Has anyone experienced a reduction of their blood pressure after discontinuing HCG? Ive been using 500iu HCG SQ q3 days, and eI've been having pretty consistent high blood pressure. Before getting on meds, I want to attempt to d/c the HCG first after reading from some other users about their...
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    Defy Medical: Pregnyl: CVS Specialty Pharmacy

    Does it matter which CVS pharmacy Defy calls in the script for Pregnyl HCG? Do I need to specifcally find a CVS Specialty pharmacy and call them to make sure it is in stock before Defy calls in the script? I am located in the Dallas, TX area.
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    HCG and Asthma

    Currently on clomid + HCG protocol from my urologist. HCG 1000iu 2x week. My first dose of HCG went great, almost euphoric high a few hours after and felt good. But my 2nd dose 3 days later I didn’t feel anything besides extreme bloating to the point where it affected my asthma. I was having low...
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    Anastrozole effects in the brain

    (Moving this to a new thread since it is a different topic) I am harping on this as I was doing pretty well on TRT with less than 100mg Testosterone Cypionate once a week plus 250IU HCG twice a week. Strong libido, good erections, etc. At that time, if I took 5mg cialis I could feel the effect...
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    First Lab Post! “Should I stay or should I go?”...would appreciate some guidance. Thank you!

    I’m a 45 yo male, 150 lbs. Prior to starting any testosterone therapy my labs in January 2018 were in range (Total T 601 280-1100ng/dl, Free T 10.43 1.9-27ng/dl), but I wanted to see if increasing testosterone levels would help to improve fatigue. I always had a high sex drive, with decent...
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    12.5mg Clomid enough

    31 years old started self administering trt in June 2016 (Almost 6 years ago). Shouldn't have started TRT looking back at lab value I got from just doing one blood test (that was after a bad nights sleep). ~450ng/dL with above average Free T cause my SHBG is lowish (wasn't measured on this lab...
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    HCG Dosage for pre PCT kickstart

    I'm on day 4 of using 300IU everyday of ovidac HCG. The plan is to do this for 2 weeks then start clomid. is 300IU enough for kickstart before the PCT begins? What dosage should I use?
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    Restarting natural production

    I just came back from a week long vacation where I skipped a weeks worth (2) of injections for the first time since starting self TRT of 5 years. Here is what the PCT plan: 1) 5 days after last Test E injection start protocol. 2) HCG 500IU per day for 2 weeks. 3) Then, 25mg Clomid for 1...
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    How much HCG on TRT?

    How many units of HCG per week (injecting 2x week) needed to maintain testicular function on TRT?
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    HCT sublingual as standalone therapy

    56-year-old male, reasonably healthy and active through quite stressed with work and the situation in society and the world. I've always felt I've had low testosterone in light of my small body frame, minimal muscles, no body hair, no aggressiveness, poor EQ. Had an exam with a trusted men's...
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    Nelson Vergel Talks About Nandrolone, hCG, Hormone Ratios, AI’s, and More

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    Talking TRT Dose, Deca, Female TRT, Assault on Compounded Hormones & HCG with Nelson Vergel Part 1 Today we are talking with Nelson Vergel from Discounted Labs and Excel Male. In part 1 of this interview, we discuss Testosterone dosage, Deca or Nandrolone Decanoate, the stigma behind TRT, the...
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    Weight Fluctuations TRT/HCG

    I was getting excited as my weight was going down and I was less puffy. But I've realized my weight is just so up and down day to day. Prior to TRT and HCG I was about 219 lbs, 16.5" arms. I worked out like a monster. With trt/hcg I went to 240. Strength went up drastically and my arms hit...
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    About a Year on TRT...lab work next week...questions

    Hey guys. I'm about 1 year in; .25ml x2 a week. I feel wonderful. Puffiness is finally going away...took forever. No more naps, almost daily. No more feeling lost and unable to think. Good sex again, whenever I want it. A couple of months in I had my testosterone tested. Total was HIGH (to...
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    Found HCG in my freezer

    This is pretty odd for me. I don't usually lose track of things. Yet, I found two unmixed vials of HCG in my freezer over the weekend. They are from 2019. Any chance they are still good?
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    PCT plan

    There are a lot of different protocols I am finding about coming off TRT. I wish there was a straight forward plan. If you know of a good one please share with me. Here is what I plan so far: 1) 5 days after last Test E injection start protocol. 2) HCG 500IU per day for 2 weeks. 3) Then, 25mg...
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    HCG weight gain

    Hi. I am looking at adding HCG to my TRT protocol that is currently just test cyp. Did anyone experience weight gain from water retention once you added HCG? I ask because I am trying to cut down to a specific weight and didn't want any surprises along the way. Thank you very much.
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    Pregnyl powder shelf life

    I plan on coming off TRT and want to know if I can use Pregnyl 5000IU that I had locked away just in case for this reason. The date on them says S.K.T. 2018-01. They are just in powder form. They are not in bacteriostatic water.
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