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  1. J

    HCG Cold Turkey

    I’ve been diagnosed with a cardiomyopathy and I’m thinking I’m going to stop the HCG. I’ll need to stay on TRT though. 1) Is HCG dangerous for the heart? 2) Can I quit cold turkey or do I need to tirate down?
  2. R

    Increasing T Dose - Does it affect fertility?

    Hello everyone, Im going to keep this post short. I've been on TRT for two years now on 100mg T enanthate / week. I'm also taking HCG ( 300IU 3x / week) and HMG ( 75IU 3x / week ). This brought my fertility back to normal. I'm planning to become a father so decided to keep both the HCG and...
  3. N

    How much HCG on TRT?

    How many units of HCG per week (injecting 2x week) needed to maintain testicular function on TRT?
  4. D

    HCG Along With TRT??

    Good morning. I'm new to the site as of yesterday and need some feedback seeing that I am brand new to this space. I'm a 49-year-old male 6'1 195lbs and starting TRT for the first time. The doctor has suggested 160mg of Testosterone Cypionate along with HCG 500iu SubQ twice weekly. I'm seeing...
  5. J

    Testopel vs Injections and HCG: Very confused

    Hello friends, Romans, countrymen: I've been on TRT since forever (Never went through puberty). Idiopathic Hypogonadotropic Hypogonadism. Over the years I've only been on TRT and nothing else. For years, I did injections every 2 weeks subq on my thigh but found the cycles and mood swings to be...
  6. Nelson Vergel

    Nelson Vergel Talks About Nandrolone, hCG, Hormone Ratios, AI’s, and More

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    Adding hcg back to my trt protocol

    Hello, I’m currently on test cypionate .25mg twice a week and have recently added hcg 1500iu 3x a week ( hcg was out of stock for a while so I had to run test cypionate alone). I’ve been taking hcg for 3 weeks now but still have significant testicular atrophy.( I was on testosterone alone for...
  8. L

    Fertility - go off or stay on TRT?

    I'm 35, been on TRT for 2 years 50mg T e3.5d. I want to have a baby (I already conceived 2 prior to TRT). We have tried the last 4-5 months and no luck. What is the best way to go about this? Should I go off T completely and use HCG? Use clomid? Or stay on TRT and use a smaller dose of HCG...
  9. S

    Added HCG -- what should I expect?

    So a few questions for the group. Months ago, I split my weekly T injection into 2 per week, and I stopped taking my AI. My balls got so small that I decided to add HCG into my protocol, and I'm now into my third week taking it (I've been told to do 3 weeks on, 1 week off). I'm not sure when I...
  10. S

    Adding HCG: What will I notice?

    I'm tired of balls the size of raisins, so I am adding in HCG starting with my next box. I've been doing TRT for a year now -- what will I notice with the HCG as it starts to become part of my program?
  11. S

    Understanding HCG and Total T ...

    Got tested for my yearly and my T was too high ackording to my doc. My protocol was 50mg Enanthate every 3.5d ... (100mg/week total) Got me to reduce the T to 80mg per week (I did actually 84mg per week) ... but added HCG at 500iu twice a week on top of the 84mg... After 6 weeks, my total...
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    TRT Dosage while regaining fertility / Fertility Protocol

    Hi All- Long time lurker, first time poster. My wife and I have a healthy 9 year old who was conceived 4 months after a contest cycle (my count was over 200M). I've been on 100-250mgs of test a week, no more competing, but no HCG. Out of the blue, we decided to try for a 2nd kid. I got off...
  13. jacb

    All HCG is NOT the same. Your balls care. Part 2

    It seems that all brands of HCG are not the same, your balls care. Many people in this forum have stated that brand x is better than y etc at reducing testicular atrophy and increasing penile sensitivity etc. Now that two of the favourites brands of HCG, Corion and Pregnyl are becoming...
  14. C

    Optimal dose BUT... Need urgent help

    Hi team Excelmale! Long story short (I have done several post before); I have eventually found my dose where my severe symptoms are gone., I am so FU..ING happy. More time is needed but the effect have lastet for a long period now. 100mg Enanthate on Monday and Thursday with 200 iu HCG. (side...
  15. J

    My HcG trials

    Sorry this is so long but wondering if anyone else has had similar side effects and what you've done? I've been on TRT for 7 years but have tapered down over the past 2. I went to clinics for several years where I was started at 200 mg and I received HcG as well (no idea how much.) Just like...
  16. M

    Ideas for Fixing Chronic ED / Poor Sensitivity?

    Hi guys, I’m 30 years old living in Canada and I have been on TRT for approximately three years. The primary issue that got me started on TRT was lack of libido, bad ED (including total absence of morning wood), and a “numb” feeling / no sensitivity in the genitals. My initial bloodwork...
  17. R

    Help!! Mixing HCG

    I Received my HCG from my doctor by mail. I have questions on mixing, It's 5000IU bottle with inst to mix 5ml of b-water with 3ml 23g needle. Question do fill 3ml needle and fill HCG and then fill needle with additional 2ml? My injection will be 25 units a week.
  18. S

    Going for semen analysis Tuesday. First one since starting TRT 1.5 years ago. Anyone want to take a bet?

    Started TRT/HRT 1.5 years ago. Have been on either 250iu/300iu HCG once or twice per week nearly the whole time outside of a few weeks in the beginning. Seem to feel best on 250iu HCG once per week on Wednesday mng and that's what I'm doing now. Monday mng 80mg test cyp/80mg Thur evening...
  19. S

    Does HCG stop working due to desensitization?

    I watched a youtube video done by a guy I respect a lot (Virtuous Steve) and he claimed that HCG Leydig cell desensitization is real and HCG shouldn't be used year round to backfill DHEA and Pregnenolone, but supplementing w/pills is a better solution. 25mg DHEA/10mg Preg. I began TRT in...
  20. Fernando Almaguer

    To HCG or not To HCG

    So, after all the hoopla- I wonder how many guys feel fine on no hcg? How many absolutely need it? Can we find the reason why? I find that I can go no HCG for a little while but then I miss it. Go back on and the water retention, erections get soft. So I wonder where the balance is. I...
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    Hey everyone, new to the forum but have been on some form of TRT for 13 years. For the last year or so I feel like I’m pretty dialed in. Using test cyp subcu 2x/wk & HCG 3x/wk 270 ius each time. My question is this though…… Over the last 4-5 months there has been 2 times that I had go 3-4 weeks...
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    Personal Follow-Up

    Hey guys. I've been injecting for a couple of months now and: -haven't taken one mid day nap at work -sleep all night -losing fat/gaining muscle -gaining lots of strength -I can focus again -sex is better I had some blood work done today for a follow-up and it wasn't very inclusive. My PCP is...
  23. R

    TRT testicular atrophy

    Hi, im 24 and was type 2 hypogonadal. Had a inexperienced Dr, currently in South America so low on options. Got told I would be infertile if I continued on trt 125mg / week. The testicular atrophy has started to worry me due to one Dr.'s comments on my risk on fertility. Further listening to his...
  24. S

    Question on HCG timing w twice weekly injects

    I take 80mg of test cyp e3.5 days (Mon morning and Thurs afternoon) = 160mg per week. I USED to take 250iu of HCG once weekly Subq Wednesday morning. I have been for some time doing Nelson's method of 250iu with my injections IM so now twice weekly in the same syringe as the testosterone. I...
  25. A

    HCG Anxiety

    Hi, My doc has just put me on 1,500IU a week in addition to 16mg of Test E ED to help boost my low e2. This has created some nasty anxiety (which I was trying to get rid of in the first place). Is this just due to it being a protocol change and I just need to bare it until my levels stabilse...
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    fsh - info and why so expensive

    I've only started researching fsh so probably a bit cheeky to ask without making more effort. Fertility aside, why is it beneficial? Effect of TRT vs hCG/FSH on upstream hormone pathways. This post covers some of it. I'll have to read it more clearly, and generally some extra info, to see the...
  27. J

    High estradiol even on anastrazole

    I'm on a morphine pump for chronic back pain and my testosterone dropped to 190. For two years I've been on 1 mg of testosterone cypionate weekly (ships from Empower Pharmacy) and donate blood regularly to keep my hematocrit/hemoglobin levels in check. Last year my estradiol levels were...
  28. F

    Has Anyone Stopped HCG

    I have been on various forms of TRT and I am still fine tuning the ideal protocol. I am starting to believe that the "less is more" approach is wise. Years ago, I was on Hcg monotherapy and realized this did not work well for me. But, I have always been on some form of Hcg along with whatever...
  29. R

    Hcg on trt . Best time ?

    I’m using hcg 400iu”s twice a week on Sunday and weds . I picked these days because my testosterone injections are on Monday and Thursdays and my thought process is I want to limit how much hcg converts to estrogen . So by waiting till the day before my next injection my test levels will be...
  30. S

    Switching doctors confused about HCG dosing

    My current doctor has me on 250iu of HCG ONCE per week. Says every 8 days is the magic number but once per week will cut it. I don't understand if this is an old protocol or what but I'm switching clinics and my new doctor told me this is really low and they recommend their guys go 500iu 2X...
  31. C

    HcG and Bacteriostatic Water ?

    Hey gang. When I used to get HcG from my clinic ( 5000 I.U ) I would reconstitute with 5 ml of bacteriostatic water. My protocol is 250 units twice weekly so total 500 units weekly. Anyway, we all know that HcG is becoming harder to to get from clinics, so I sourced some HcG overseas ( pic...
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