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    HCG Alternatives due to cost

    I am 30 years old and have been on TRT for 7 years, HCG for the last 3 years. My main concern is maintaining fertility. A 5ml, 50,000UI vial used to cost $150 and is now $300. Has anyone found a safe, effective, and cheap replacement? I've been looking at: Overseas pharmacies for HCG...
  2. R

    TRT Since 2013 - Feeling Worse Than Ever

    Hey guys, I'll be brief, just looking for some feedback. Been on TRT since 2013 due to a testicular injury suffered in the gym. T never recovered past 300 total after surgery, so here I am. First doc was the urologist, 200mg IM every 2 weeks. Felt amazing for like 3 months and then the...
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    Help! Insomnia, Irritability, and Libido Issues on TRT

    Here's my most recent bloodwork with an SHBG of 38 I was on 250 mg test C split into daily injections as well as 150 IU HCG ED. I was also taking 100 mg pregnenolone before bed because my pre-TRT progesterone was 0.1 I have been waking up too early (after 6 hours in bed) and unable to go back...
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    Twice Weekly HCG Timing with TRT

    Hi Everyone, I take two test Cypionate injections per week. 60mg each shot. Monday morning and Thursday morning. When in relation to these should I take HCG. I’ll be taking 500iu twice a week. My gut says it should be in the middle of these test shots as to not spike E2 too high. I’ve heard...
  5. J

    TRT, Clomid and HCG

    Can I use Clomid and HCG while staying on TRT to recover fertility? I would HMG later on as we get closer to IVF. About a year from now. If so, at what dosage should I use the Clomid and HCG? Thank you in advance. I’ve been on TRT since the George W Bush Administration with no HCG.
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    Dropped HCG. Ride it out or re-add?

    Long story short. I have been a long time viewer of this forum and need some advice. I have been on TRT for over 3 years. 40mg of Testosterone EOD with 100iu of HCG daily. I've been having anxiety and constant sore/clicking joints and decided to try dropping the HCG as I have zero need for...
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    No FSH for 3 weeks. Can I just start taking again or do I need to go off T?

    Hi all, I've been getting really good sperm results using a combination of HCG (1000 IU EOD) HGH (2IU every day) and FSH (100IU EOD). I also take 20mg of T daily and .25mg of anastrozole 1-3x a week. I've had some trouble sourcing FSH since Empower stopped carrying it. I have been able to...
  8. J

    HCG Cold Turkey

    I’ve been diagnosed with a cardiomyopathy and I’m thinking I’m going to stop the HCG. I’ll need to stay on TRT though. 1) Is HCG dangerous for the heart? 2) Can I quit cold turkey or do I need to tirate down?
  9. R

    Increasing T Dose - Does it affect fertility?

    Hello everyone, Im going to keep this post short. I've been on TRT for two years now on 100mg T enanthate / week. I'm also taking HCG ( 300IU 3x / week) and HMG ( 75IU 3x / week ). This brought my fertility back to normal. I'm planning to become a father so decided to keep both the HCG and...
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    How much HCG on TRT?

    How many units of HCG per week (injecting 2x week) needed to maintain testicular function on TRT?
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    HCG Along With TRT??

    Good morning. I'm new to the site as of yesterday and need some feedback seeing that I am brand new to this space. I'm a 49-year-old male 6'1 195lbs and starting TRT for the first time. The doctor has suggested 160mg of Testosterone Cypionate along with HCG 500iu SubQ twice weekly. I'm seeing...
  12. J

    Testopel vs Injections and HCG: Very confused

    Hello friends, Romans, countrymen: I've been on TRT since forever (Never went through puberty). Idiopathic Hypogonadotropic Hypogonadism. Over the years I've only been on TRT and nothing else. For years, I did injections every 2 weeks subq on my thigh but found the cycles and mood swings to be...
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    Adding hcg back to my trt protocol

    Hello, I’m currently on test cypionate .25mg twice a week and have recently added hcg 1500iu 3x a week ( hcg was out of stock for a while so I had to run test cypionate alone). I’ve been taking hcg for 3 weeks now but still have significant testicular atrophy.( I was on testosterone alone for...
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    Fertility - go off or stay on TRT?

    I'm 35, been on TRT for 2 years 50mg T e3.5d. I want to have a baby (I already conceived 2 prior to TRT). We have tried the last 4-5 months and no luck. What is the best way to go about this? Should I go off T completely and use HCG? Use clomid? Or stay on TRT and use a smaller dose of HCG...
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    Added HCG -- what should I expect?

    So a few questions for the group. Months ago, I split my weekly T injection into 2 per week, and I stopped taking my AI. My balls got so small that I decided to add HCG into my protocol, and I'm now into my third week taking it (I've been told to do 3 weeks on, 1 week off). I'm not sure when I...
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    Adding HCG: What will I notice?

    I'm tired of balls the size of raisins, so I am adding in HCG starting with my next box. I've been doing TRT for a year now -- what will I notice with the HCG as it starts to become part of my program?
  18. Sergel

    Understanding HCG and Total T ...

    Got tested for my yearly and my T was too high ackording to my doc. My protocol was 50mg Enanthate every 3.5d ... (100mg/week total) Got me to reduce the T to 80mg per week (I did actually 84mg per week) ... but added HCG at 500iu twice a week on top of the 84mg... After 6 weeks, my total...
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    TRT Dosage while regaining fertility / Fertility Protocol

    Hi All- Long time lurker, first time poster. My wife and I have a healthy 9 year old who was conceived 4 months after a contest cycle (my count was over 200M). I've been on 100-250mgs of test a week, no more competing, but no HCG. Out of the blue, we decided to try for a 2nd kid. I got off...
  20. jacb

    All HCG is NOT the same. Your balls care. Part 2

    It seems that all brands of HCG are not the same, your balls care. Many people in this forum have stated that brand x is better than y etc at reducing testicular atrophy and increasing penile sensitivity etc. Now that two of the favourites brands of HCG, Corion and Pregnyl are becoming...
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    Optimal dose BUT... Need urgent help

    Hi team Excelmale! Long story short (I have done several post before); I have eventually found my dose where my severe symptoms are gone., I am so FU..ING happy. More time is needed but the effect have lastet for a long period now. 100mg Enanthate on Monday and Thursday with 200 iu HCG. (side...
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    My HcG trials

    Sorry this is so long but wondering if anyone else has had similar side effects and what you've done? I've been on TRT for 7 years but have tapered down over the past 2. I went to clinics for several years where I was started at 200 mg and I received HcG as well (no idea how much.) Just like...
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    Ideas for Fixing Chronic ED / Poor Sensitivity?

    Hi guys, I’m 30 years old living in Canada and I have been on TRT for approximately three years. The primary issue that got me started on TRT was lack of libido, bad ED (including total absence of morning wood), and a “numb” feeling / no sensitivity in the genitals. My initial bloodwork...
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    Help!! Mixing HCG

    I Received my HCG from my doctor by mail. I have questions on mixing, It's 5000IU bottle with inst to mix 5ml of b-water with 3ml 23g needle. Question do fill 3ml needle and fill HCG and then fill needle with additional 2ml? My injection will be 25 units a week.
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    Going for semen analysis Tuesday. First one since starting TRT 1.5 years ago. Anyone want to take a bet?

    Started TRT/HRT 1.5 years ago. Have been on either 250iu/300iu HCG once or twice per week nearly the whole time outside of a few weeks in the beginning. Seem to feel best on 250iu HCG once per week on Wednesday mng and that's what I'm doing now. Monday mng 80mg test cyp/80mg Thur evening...
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    Does HCG stop working due to desensitization?

    I watched a youtube video done by a guy I respect a lot (Virtuous Steve) and he claimed that HCG Leydig cell desensitization is real and HCG shouldn't be used year round to backfill DHEA and Pregnenolone, but supplementing w/pills is a better solution. 25mg DHEA/10mg Preg. I began TRT in...
  27. Fernando Almaguer

    To HCG or not To HCG

    So, after all the hoopla- I wonder how many guys feel fine on no hcg? How many absolutely need it? Can we find the reason why? I find that I can go no HCG for a little while but then I miss it. Go back on and the water retention, erections get soft. So I wonder where the balance is. I...
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    Hey everyone, new to the forum but have been on some form of TRT for 13 years. For the last year or so I feel like I’m pretty dialed in. Using test cyp subcu 2x/wk & HCG 3x/wk 270 ius each time. My question is this though…… Over the last 4-5 months there has been 2 times that I had go 3-4 weeks...
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    Personal Follow-Up

    Hey guys. I've been injecting for a couple of months now and: -haven't taken one mid day nap at work -sleep all night -losing fat/gaining muscle -gaining lots of strength -I can focus again -sex is better I had some blood work done today for a follow-up and it wasn't very inclusive. My PCP is...
  30. R

    TRT testicular atrophy

    Hi, im 24 and was type 2 hypogonadal. Had a inexperienced Dr, currently in South America so low on options. Got told I would be infertile if I continued on trt 125mg / week. The testicular atrophy has started to worry me due to one Dr.'s comments on my risk on fertility. Further listening to his...
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    Question on HCG timing w twice weekly injects

    I take 80mg of test cyp e3.5 days (Mon morning and Thurs afternoon) = 160mg per week. I USED to take 250iu of HCG once weekly Subq Wednesday morning. I have been for some time doing Nelson's method of 250iu with my injections IM so now twice weekly in the same syringe as the testosterone. I...
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