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    • How to Increase Muscle Pump /Strength at the Gym

      Quote Originally Posted by JayLay777 View Post
      Does getting a good pump in the gym while lifting have anything to do with testosterone levels? I know you need good blood flow to get a pump but I was wandering if having higher testosterone would lead to greater pumps in the gym.
      The muscle pump is related to various factors such as- rep range (higher rep ranges)
      - rest period between sets (shorter rest intervals)
      - carbohydrate stores (glycogen storage in muscle cells)/insulin sensitivity
      - nitric oxide levels (vasodilation) (NO)
      - RBC levels (red blood cells)

      Yes, testosterone plays a role as it can increase NO production and red blood cells and also increases one's insulin sensitivity and the amount of carbohydrate stored in the muscle as glycogen.
      Regarding one having healthy physiological levels of testosterone, the anabolic hormone will allow one to build muscle tissue/increase strength/lose adipose/increase recovery/increase pumps due to increased NO/glycogen storage as long as one's diet/training is in order.

      As far as greater pumps in the gym as I stated many factors are related to achieving the pump but if one were truly looking for increases in muscle/ size and strength and insane skin splitting pumps than supra-physiological levels of testosterone would be needed.

      As in no way can natural physiological levels of testosterone compare to supra-physiological levels of testosterone and the levels of muscle/strength and truly mind boggling pumps one would achieve using/abusing testosterone/aas compounds.

      Having supra-physiological levels of testosterone would allow one to store a lot more glycogen in the muscle let alone the increase in red blood cells.

      High doses of testosterone and using oral c-17 alpha alkylated steroids such as Anadrol (oxymetholone), Dianabol (methandrostenolone) are known for increasing glycogen and intra-cellular water stores let alone red blood cells which will lead to insane pumps.

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      This article was originally published in forum thread: Muscle pump /strength in gym
      Comments 24 Comments
      1. Vince's Avatar
        Vince -
        No, higher testosterone doesn't cause better pump in the gym. Increase nitric oxide does, it widens your blood vessels, lowers blood pressure and increases blood flow.
      1. KevinC's Avatar
        KevinC -
        For me, TRT did make a difference in the pump I achieved. I was a gym rat and as my T levels decreased so did my strength and eventually my desire to lift. After starting TRT my strength came back and so did my desire to lift, with more lifting came more muscle along with a better "pump".

        One thing to keep in mind, Arnold Schwarzenegger was talking about the pump before science and the medical community ever even knew what Nitric Oxide does to the human body.
      1. Vince's Avatar
        Vince -
        A lot of young man make good levels of nitric oxide, what I was young I was one of them. Very easy for me to get a pump in the gym. Now that my body doesn't make as much nitric oxide, I need a good nitric oxide stack.
      1. Vince Carter's Avatar
        Vince Carter -
        IN and of itself No T isn't going to give you a pump. Wrapped up with better Free T, NO substrates like Citrulline, sure you're going to overall do better in a number of ways in the gym.
      1. JPB's Avatar
        JPB -
        T in and of itself will contribute to better pumps but for most of us older guys even with NO enhancers it is not going to be as good as it used to be.

        There are plenty of studies demonstrating improvements in NO physiology with T

        https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8770664
        Abstract

        Classically, androgens were thought to be linked to sexual activity in man through their action on increased libido. Recently, the sex hormone dependent nature of nitric oxide synthase (NOS), the enzyme system producing the neurotransmitter of erection (nitric oxide) has been reported. ...
      1. Vince Carter's Avatar
        Vince Carter -
        SO youre basing things off a 22 year old study...in rat boners?
      1. Alldayeveryday's Avatar
        Alldayeveryday -
        I had all but forgotten what a good muscle pump felt like until I started my trt regime this year. My workouts were night and day as well as the pump. I can't believe I went so long in pain before breaking down and getting bloodwork. The vascularity is awesome too.
      1. lowe2sucks's Avatar
        lowe2sucks -
        if you would ask question for dude who used anabolic steroids (they are testosterone and testosterone derivatives) what changed in the gym after he went off he will mention i had these skin tearing pumps when ON and naturally barely any pump compared to that, strenght too. so if we compare low T and high levels of T there definitely should be better pumps and strenght
      1. JPB's Avatar
        JPB -
        Quote Originally Posted by Vince Carter View Post
        SO youre basing things off a 22 year old study...in rat boners?
        Ha yeah but that's just for one, and it being 22 years does not make it any less significant, there are plenty of studies showing this ... and plenty of anecdotal evidence. Testosterone will have positive impact on NO and pumps, for sure. Boners is more hit and miss.
      1. Vince's Avatar
        Vince -
        Quote Originally Posted by JPB View Post
        Ha yeah but that's just for one, and it being 22 years does not make it any less significant, there are plenty of studies showing this ... and plenty of anecdotal evidence. Testosterone will have positive impact on NO and pumps, for sure. Boners is more hit and miss.
        Nitric oxide increases your pump in the muscle but also the erection of your penis. So I would think both go hand in hand.
      1. Alldayeveryday's Avatar
        Alldayeveryday -
        *"The quick summary is that*testosterone actually optimizes and even boosts nitric oxide levels through action on eNOS, the same enzyme that Viagra works on.* Testosterone also*lowers arterial inflammation*according to a couple of studies. [8] Its actions are so important to your cardiovascular system that low testosterone levels have been shown to be a significant risk factor for many chronic cardiovascular diseases"
      1. JPB's Avatar
        JPB -
        Quote Originally Posted by Vince View Post
        Nitric oxide increases your pump in the muscle but also the erection of your penis. So I would think both go hand in hand.
        Vince, there are similarities but I would not say they go hand in hand. There is a stronger influence of blood flow and NO with your penis. The penis is more purely a cardiovascular indicator. In the muscles this is also important, but there is also the role of glycogen loading, which unfortunately declines with age, but is restored to a degree with TRT. When the muscles load and utilize glycogen for short-term energy, this contributes greatly to the localized pump sensation.
      1. Vince's Avatar
        Vince -
        Quote Originally Posted by JPB View Post
        Vince, there are similarities but I would not say they go hand in hand. There is a stronger influence of blood flow and NO with your penis. The penis is more purely a cardiovascular indicator. In the muscles this is also important, but there is also the role of glycogen loading, which unfortunately declines with age, but is restored to a degree with TRT. When the muscles load and utilize glycogen for short-term energy, this contributes greatly to the localized pump sensation.
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      1. Joey786's Avatar
        Joey786 -
        Vince if i remember correctly you take thyroid medication along with trt. Have you noticed a difference in muscle pump while taking thyroid medication?
      1. Vince's Avatar
        Vince -
        Quote Originally Posted by Joey786 View Post
        Vince if i remember correctly you take thyroid medication along with trt. Have you noticed a difference in muscle pump while taking thyroid medication?
        I've been on thyroid meds for a long time, too long to notice a difference.
      1. Joey786's Avatar
        Joey786 -
        Whenever I take t3 I canít get a pump for the life of me! Anything over 5mcg and Iím flat.
      1. FeelingLost's Avatar
        FeelingLost -
        I am new to this whole gym thing. I always got my exersize by doing stuff outdoors. I joined a gym 8 months ago and now go 4 times a week.
        I don't think TRT has helped me at the gym while exersizing but it sure helps in recovery.
        I know what hard exersize feels like and how long it used to take me to recover. I recover in 24 hours these days.
        So I guess in the long run since I am not sore for very long I can go back to the gym sooner.
      1. FOX1's Avatar
        FOX1 -
        Quote Originally Posted by Vince View Post
        A lot of young man make good levels of nitric oxide, what I was young I was one of them. Very easy for me to get a pump in the gym. Now that my body doesn't make as much nitric oxide, I need a good nitric oxide stack.
        Appreciated your post on nitric oxide stack, I followed it and at the age of 53, the pumps I am getting at gym are first class
        I never thought I could gain muscle the way I am at this age
      1. FeelingLost's Avatar
        FeelingLost -
        Quote Originally Posted by FOX1 View Post
        Appreciated your post on nitric oxide stack, I followed it and at the age of 53, the pumps I am getting at gym are first class
        I never thought I could gain muscle the way I am at this age
        @ JayLay, So this might be a clue to your issues. You have already found out your T lvl's are fine and DHEA did not work fo so maybe you have issues making NO.
      1. JayLay777's Avatar
        JayLay777 -
        I have never heard of a person having NO issues before. I don't know what would cause my body to not make enough nitric oxide.
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