new labs: t>1500 + very high TSH (deca issue?)

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masfield

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i'm talking to defy soon about my new labs but thought i'd get input from my betters here as well.

3/13/19 results
testosterone free. 6.6 - 18.1 range. 16.3
testosterone total. 264 - 916 range. >1500
estradiol: 8 - 35 range. 27.4
shbg. 19.3 - 76.4 range. 31.4
prolactin. 4 - 15.2 range. 13.4
dhea. 48.9 - 344.2 range. 113
tsh. .45 - 4.5 range. 19.92
t3: 2 - 4.4 range. 1.8
t4: .82 - 1.77 range. .97

previous results, dec 18
testosterone free. 6.6 - 18.1 range. 34.4
testosterone total. 264 - 916 range. >1500
estradiol: 8 - 35 range. 44
shbg. 19.3 - 76.4 range. 32.4
prolactin. 4 - 15.2 range. 10
dhea. 48.9 - 344.2 range. 149.1
tsh. .45 - 4.5 range. 3.2
t3: 2 - 4.4 range. not done
t4: .82 - 1.77 range. not done

in december, my protocol was:
0.30 cc Nandrolone Decanoate (200mg/ml) ==> 60 mg nandrolone 2x/week,
0.30 cc Test. Cypionate (200 mg/ml) ==> 60 mg 2x/week

due to acne issues, and the high t levels, i changed both to .20 cc twice a week. clearly, that's had no impact on my T level. and it's done nothing for my acne.

most obviously strange is the huge jump in tsh, from 3.2 to 19. i do have hypothyroidism and am on 100mg daily of levothyroxine. i read in another recent thread here that nandrolone may impact the thyroid. but why would it do so now, at a time when i've cut my dose by 1/3?

other thoughts? i see i did get my estradiol and free t levels down.

oh -- last time, defy thought my high t reading was a spike but this time i had my labs taken 5 days after my last injection, so i'd guess that throws out the spike theory.
 
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masfield

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here's what defy said.
1/ tsh level mystified them. i've been doing ketamine since my last labs, so they suggested i check w/ my k doc to see if it could be causing the uprise.

2/ suggested dropping the nandrolone in favor of mk677.

3/ suggested upping testosterone from .2 to .25

any thoughts about this?

oh -- and they want me to get the thyroid labs redone, in the levels are a lab error.
 

masfield

Member
no thoughts, anyone, anyone at all?

another thing i'm curious about is the suggestion to up the t to .25 ccs, when my level is already > 1500
 
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