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8 wks, much better

This would be after the normal 4-6 week hcg run after coming off testosterone, so would doing another run of HCG 12-16 weeks after stopping testosterone, slow the recovery process ?? I know it can take 9+months to fully recover

no , i will be getting the thyroid tested though

I think SHBG was always mid normal range, maybe slightly more than mid range, but that was when I first went on therapy, and before therapy, 6.5 years ago who knows now, but does it really matter? cant really change SHBG ?

I am at a loss of where to go from here, I need to change something up , or possibly come off restart with HCG, main symptoms, are brain fog, anxiety, fatigue , maybe I just need more time to settle out idk

new 27.5 mg EOD protocol, started 23 days before bloodwork, too soon I know still probably raise slightly , I will retest, but Total T was 693.7 ng/dl (264-916), free T 13.6 pg/mL(9.3-26.5), E2 sensitive 17.0 pg/mL(8-35) , all LC/MS.

Like for example your bloodwork always comes back as around 20% above mid range Total T , but 20% below mid range Free T ?? anything you can do , or just genetics ?

Nelson, in regards to those studies , so the exogenous androgens, are shutting things down, acting differently than the endogenous androgens ?

you NEED to find a protocol that works without an AI , whether thats 50 mg or 300 mg

they are talking about the ratio of Testosterone to estrogen , meaning it is in men that are converting more of the testosterone they inject into estrogen and/or dht, of course those results are going to come back the way they did , it is NOT about some specific number, that will be largely...

very interesting, i wonder what that amount is ? does 200 mg do it ? or 250 ? or you already gave those a shot ?

100 mg - 400 mg, over the years, no erectile issues and high sex drive been on TRT ages 22-29

in regards to the LEF linked article, we are talking about men and estradiol when injecting exogenous testosterone, not aging males that are "natural"

Stop the AI immediately, throw it in the garbage, if you are not comfortable with 200 mg a week, you need to lower the dosage, you are essentially taking a poison, and completely wreaking havoc on your body for no reason at all.

Exactly right only you need to go further , 99% of males do not need it , and that 1% that may need it, would be for a VERY short period of time

Everything I said stands , you may be only able to tolerate 50 mg of Test a week, or none at all for that matter if you have some genetic issue, I respect how you feel, I hope you can find an appropriate protocol , or medication that suits you best, like you said playing around with hormone...

I don't claim to know anything, All I have to go on is 6 yrs of TRT and countless hours of research and experimentation on myself and others I know personally, getting your health and lifestyle in order first, and running without an AI for 3 months straight with the appropriate dose of...

Ok , those symptoms you are having have NOTHING to do with the estrogen level itself, that is just a symptom , not the root cause, what is your age? what is your lifesyle/behaviors? what is your height /weight / BF% ? do you do drugs/ alcohol ? are you under a lot of stress ? you never want to...

very true, but I am only 29 i would just be curious to see with proper lifestyle if i could recover to like 400+ but whats the point really idk

years ago I originally got on TRT from a total T level of 70 ng/dl , that was my last test before treatment, but now I remember, the night before I had drank a fair bit of alcohol before the blood test, do you think this mattered THAT much? or it would have been <150 or so anyways? I mean 70 is...

I think genetics/age play a large part and all you need to do is adjust dosage and/or frequency of injections, I agree that AI's should never be used, complete poison IMO. Some might only handle 60-70 mg/wk without problems, while others can push 200 mg/wk without problems, who really knows for...

I am 29 now, and have been on TRT since Dec 2012(so roughly a little over 6 yrs now), and am open to the possibility of trying to come off Testosterone just to see how it feels. The official diagnosis was idiopathic secondary hypogonadism , meaning they could not really give me an answer why my...