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I still don’t know what “misinformation” you’re talking about. I don’t mind a civilized debate, but next time try stating your opinions politely and you won’t cause a big argument.

Ive tried the low t dosages as well but still feel better around 170-180mg/week which is what I’ve been running for a while. I wouldn’t consider that a low dose.

Dude... I’m not saying that estrogen does not cause water retention. I’m saying the water retention could be from anything else and one shouldn’t automatically assume it’s from their estrogen. The evidence that it isn’t always estrogen is in the bloodwork. Someone with single digit e2 and still...

Science aside, when I take arimidex for a continued period and then stop, my e2 spikes higher than if I don’t use arimidex at all. I’m sure others might have experienced the same thing

The evidence is in people’s bloodwork. There are people with estrogen over the “normal range” that do not retain water. You have to realize that a lot of the patients on trt and the few Dr’s out there that are passionate about trt are ahead of the entire medical industry on this kind of stuff.

Im not saying it doesn’t cause water retention, I’m saying it’s possible that in some cases the water retention is due to something else.

If the water retention is due to estrogen then why do I retain more water when my estrogen is lower? I don’t experience water retention when I don’t suppress estrogen. It can be caused by a host of different things other than estrogen. Electrolyte balances, carbohydrates, cortisol levels etc...

Do you even understand how arimidex works? It doesn’t stop the production of aromatase enzymes, it simply binds to them before testosterone gets a chance to. So your body continues to produce the enzymes and this can cause a buildup. When the arimidex starts wearing off the enzymes become active...

Adipose tissue is fat, gyno is glandular. The two are different.

You realize that water retention and increases in blood pressure are side effects of taking testosterone, right? Your water retention could very well be from the testosterone and not even caused by your estrogen. Duh you can shed water weight by knocking down estrogen, but that doesn’t mean it’s...

I would definitely taper. Arimidex will cause a rebound if stopped cold turkey in most cases.

No such thing as ai rebound? LOL stop taking your arimidex and I guarantee you will experience a rebound. It is well known that arimidex causes a rebound. You must be thinking of aromasin. They have different mechanisms of action. And gyno is a predisposition, just like male pattern baldness. If...

It did take about a month to really smooth out for me after stopping the ai. If you’re on hcg I’d recommend stopping for a month and see how you feel. Bring your test to 40mg eod. I didn’t use hcg for the first 6 months of trt and all the “downstream hormones” were sitting pretty in the middle...

After cutting out the hcg is when I noticed complete stability. First I dropped the ai and noticed dramatic improvements in how I felt, but still not 100% stable. Dropped the hcg and everything smoothed out completely. Not to sound weird but it seemed like hcg made my balls start producing at...

Yes, exactly. When I use an ai and keep my estrogen suppressed, I retain water bad. I’m a lean guy, I’ve done body scans and came back at 6.5% body fat in October of 2018. A few hours after I’d take an ai, I start jiggling everywhere. I’m talking about subcutaneous water retention. Without an ai...

Maybe you’re on too much testosterone than your body naturally likes, therefore it over aromatizes. If you’re on hcg, that will absolutely cause e2 to spike in a lot of cases. In a lot of cases I think minimum effective dose is the way to go. A lot of guys (myself included) started off by...

If you’re looking to try a new protocol here’s my recommendation that completely changed my trt experience- Try your 50 mg eod, alternate pinning your delts and drop any hcg and ai. I use quarter inch insulin syringes and it leaves absolutely no trace of an injection. (no post injection pain...

I could not disagree with you more. When you’re on trt, you’re on synthetic hormones and your body doesn’t respond exactly the same as it would from endogenous hormones. Your body can control the production and suppression of different endogenous hormones in response to different things (stress...

***UPDATE*** Been over a month, maybe two since quitting anastrozole and any ai’s. My protocol is 45 mg enanthate eod, no hcg, no ai. I have never felt better. Every single symptom of mine is gone. I feel like a normal, healthy, optimal man finally. Sex drive is in full gear, absolutely zero...

Also curious what your shbg is?

Well those claims resonate with me and the symptoms I experienced from achieving “optimal” e2 levels left me feeling like I had a chronic disease or something. Just saying, I followed many peoples advice on ai’s for the past 8 months on trt and felt awful until weaning off. So maybe sharing my...

I advise you all watch that video and revise the way you look at ai’s...After my terrible experiences with ai’s this video makes a lot of sense...

Here’s a link to a video Jay Campbell did a few weeks ago on the dangers of ai use and why everyone should try not to use them.

Vince, that’s like assuming every guy will have matching labs on identical protocols. You’ll have people that need more, less etc. Trt is so individual that it is definitely possible, especially if they “over respond” to the ai or were at an e2 level the body was comfortable with then suddenly...

Maybe any slight change in hormones, up or down, will cause water retention.

I think the ratio is what matters more than the numbers.

Yes. I had very noticeable water retention along with very sore joints and felt fatigued throughout the morning until it “wore off” I’m assuming. As soon as I began feeling a rebound, I started feeling better and joint pains went away along with bloat. I’ve always rebounded quickly on ai’s. Even...

He wants to use the minimum amount to prevent atrophy while keeping aromatase activity low. After 9 weeks if I need more we’ll increase.

So for about the past month I had weaned off of arimidex in hopes of feeling better. I was using the 1mg adex/100mg test strategy prior to weaning off. E2 was around 21 and tt was at 1000ish. Felt awful, no sex drive, fatigue, aches and pains, hair shedding, mentally slow, brain fog, dark...

Acne and oily skin has disappeared without arimidex. My complexion actually improved too. Not pale anymore, skin is a lot more vibrant.